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I'm not very convinced. Nvidia has been very commendable by breaking new ground with the RTX technologies, but it seems that at least ray tracing has a huge pe

I'm not very convinced. Nvidia has been very commendable by breaking new ground with the RTX technologies, but it seems that at least ray tracing has a huge performance impact, therefore, I wonder how this card will fare, given its (relatively) low-level position. Moreover, with the RTX series, Nvidia has "pulled an Intel": they raised the TDP for each model, so that they on generic (non-RTX) benchmarks, they look good, but they actually have a negligible performance per watt gain compared to the previous generation. GTX x60 cards traditionally had fixed power requirements (6-pin); this doesn't apply anymore. My suspicion is that GTX 11x0 cards (1160, 1150) are not yet showing, because Nvidia hasn't figured out a way to show a performance per watt improvement yet.

suresk 8y ago
> My suspicion is that GTX 11x0 cards (1160, 1150) are not yet showing, because Nvidia hasn't figured out a way to show a performance per watt improvement yet. My guess is slightly different - they know that the RTX technology isn't really there yet, and models that were just faster version of the current generation would probably kill any RTX sales. Putting RTX on a 2060 is odd to me. The 2080 can't really run ray tracing at usable performance levels, I don't even want to know what it would look like on a 2060. There might be some more rounds of improvements coming to software, but are those enough to make it playable two tiers down?
paulmd 8y ago
Perf/watt on traditional raster is about 15% higher at 4K. Not massive, but not bad considering there wasn't a big node shrink either. https://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_RTX_2080_Ti_Founders_Edition/images/performance-per-watt_3840-2160.png https://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_RTX_2080_Ti_Founde...
Wowfunhappy 8y ago
> Nvidia has been very commendable by breaking new ground with the RTX technologies, but it seems that at least ray tracing has a huge performance impact, therefore, I wonder how this card will fare, given its (relatively) low-level position. Phrased more simply: "Is anyone going to want to use Raytracing on this card?" I'd expect the answer to be "no."

suresk 8y ago

> My suspicion is that GTX 11x0 cards (1160, 1150) are not yet showing, because Nvidia hasn't figured out a way to show a performance per watt improvement yet. My guess is slightly different - they know that the RTX technology isn't really there yet, and models that were just faster version of the current generation would probably kill any RTX sales. Putting RTX on a 2060 is odd to me. The 2080 can't really run ray tracing at usable performance levels, I don't even want to know what it would look like on a 2060. There might be some more rounds of improvements coming to software, but are those enough to make it playable two tiers down?

paulmd 8y ago

Perf/watt on traditional raster is about 15% higher at 4K. Not massive, but not bad considering there wasn't a big node shrink either. https://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_RTX_2080_Ti_Founders_Edition/images/performance-per-watt_3840-2160.png https://tpucdn.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_RTX_2080_Ti_Founde...

Wowfunhappy 8y ago

> Nvidia has been very commendable by breaking new ground with the RTX technologies, but it seems that at least ray tracing has a huge performance impact, therefore, I wonder how this card will fare, given its (relatively) low-level position. Phrased more simply: "Is anyone going to want to use Raytracing on this card?" I'd expect the answer to be "no."