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We can tell that wikileaks is now a front precisely because they have stopped operating in the way you describe. They no longer publish everything they have be

We can tell that wikileaks is now a front precisely because they have stopped operating in the way you describe. They no longer publish everything they have been given (Assange once claimed to have documents embarassing to Russia but they are as yet unpublished). They no longer publish documents indiscriminately (Podesta emails trickled out over the course of October 2016 for maximum political effect on the election) If that wasn't enough, everyone should've been convinced that wikileaks is compromised when Assange refused to demonstrate that he held the wikileaks signing private key during his reddit AMA

zozbot123 8y ago
That's all Assange's doing, though. He's doing the political equivalent of s--tposting, same as the foreign "trolls" you hear and read about, because he's independently pursuing very similar goals.
- lkdjjdjjjdskjd 8y ago
  So if he is just "shitposting", why pursue him?
Varcht 8y ago
"It is false and defamatory to suggest that Julian Assange and WikiLeaks have not published critical information on Russia, Syria or Donald Trump [in fact, WikiLeaks has published hundreds of thousands of documents on Russia, millions on Syria, and thousands on Donald Trump, see https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles/russia/ https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles/russia/, https://search.wikileaks.org/?query=russia%7Cputin%7Cmoscow#results https://search.wikileaks.org/?query=russia%7Cputin%7Cmoscow#..., https://wikileaks.org/syria-files/ https://wikileaks.org/syria-files/ & https://search.wikileaks.org/?query=trump#results https://search.wikileaks.org/?query=trump#results]."
- jeremy7600 8y ago
  Not one trump release since he announced his candidacy. Hmmm.
- hannasanarion 8y ago
  ooooOOOOOOooooOOOO is Julian going to sue me for defamation now? Allow me to amend: Wikileaks now publishes Russia and putin related material long after they aquire them and only after they are called out on it. They sat on the "spy files" for a full year, and only published them after their source went around telling other publications about them. https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-leaks-on-russian-government-during-u-s-presidential-campaign/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-l...
  - elif 8y ago
    No... but your argument was defamed of its basis.
  - taylodl 8y ago
    Are you suggesting Wikileaks may have had a hidden agenda? Say it ain't so! </sarcasm>
  - davvolun 8y ago
    I did not interpret the parent comment to be arguing against you, rather, I thought it was supporting your case -- Wikileaks is fully aware of their hypocrisy and is trying to stifle internal (and external) discussion about it.
- 8note 8y ago
  isn't that a different statement? releasing some doesn't mean he released everything, or stuff Russia wasn't okay with him releasing.
asudosandwich 8y ago
I just assumed it was a false flag put out by Wikileaks, but what is their motive? What is Assange’s motivation for not releasing proof of the signing key, because he can’t, but keeping that a secret?
deiznof 8y ago
This lie that Wikileaks never published that stuff needs to die. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/01/wikileaks-cables-russia-mafia-kleptocracy https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/01/wikileaks-cabl...

zozbot123 8y ago

That's all Assange's doing, though. He's doing the political equivalent of s--tposting, same as the foreign "trolls" you hear and read about, because he's independently pursuing very similar goals.

lkdjjdjjjdskjd 8y ago
So if he is just "shitposting", why pursue him?

Varcht 8y ago

"It is false and defamatory to suggest that Julian Assange and WikiLeaks have not published critical information on Russia, Syria or Donald Trump [in fact, WikiLeaks has published hundreds of thousands of documents on Russia, millions on Syria, and thousands on Donald Trump, see https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles/russia/ https://wikileaks.org/spyfiles/russia/, https://search.wikileaks.org/?query=russia%7Cputin%7Cmoscow#results https://search.wikileaks.org/?query=russia%7Cputin%7Cmoscow#..., https://wikileaks.org/syria-files/ https://wikileaks.org/syria-files/ & https://search.wikileaks.org/?query=trump#results https://search.wikileaks.org/?query=trump#results]."

jeremy7600 8y ago
Not one trump release since he announced his candidacy. Hmmm.
hannasanarion 8y ago
ooooOOOOOOooooOOOO is Julian going to sue me for defamation now? Allow me to amend: Wikileaks now publishes Russia and putin related material long after they aquire them and only after they are called out on it. They sat on the "spy files" for a full year, and only published them after their source went around telling other publications about them. https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-leaks-on-russian-government-during-u-s-presidential-campaign/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-l...
- elif 8y ago
  No... but your argument was defamed of its basis.
- taylodl 8y ago
  Are you suggesting Wikileaks may have had a hidden agenda? Say it ain't so! </sarcasm>
- davvolun 8y ago
  I did not interpret the parent comment to be arguing against you, rather, I thought it was supporting your case -- Wikileaks is fully aware of their hypocrisy and is trying to stifle internal (and external) discussion about it.
8note 8y ago
isn't that a different statement? releasing some doesn't mean he released everything, or stuff Russia wasn't okay with him releasing.

asudosandwich 8y ago

I just assumed it was a false flag put out by Wikileaks, but what is their motive? What is Assange’s motivation for not releasing proof of the signing key, because he can’t, but keeping that a secret?

deiznof 8y ago

This lie that Wikileaks never published that stuff needs to die. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/01/wikileaks-cables-russia-mafia-kleptocracy https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/01/wikileaks-cabl...