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"Oops" we got a big industry exclusive. Our bad guys!

lewisflude 8y ago
I wonder if they reached out to GitHub to see if they felt it was alright to keep this up? Might be good if the author could clarify! Either way, really cool news.
- SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
  Definitely cool news, even if it is a max of 3 contributors. I'd have liked to seen that a little higher, but they surely know what they're basing that number on. It's not enough to pull me from GitLab just yet, but if I keep having 10MB+ issues there, I'll switch.
  - sytse 8y ago
    What issue are you having on GitLab? Do you mean the attachment limit? https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/support-forum/issues/2654 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/support-forum/issues/2654 How large is it on GitHub and BitBucket?
    - SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
      Don't know what it is exactly. But definitely within the last year, I'll occasionally add a >10MB pdf or something and can't push that commit up, broken socket everytime. Same thing occasionally happens with a coworker. I 'fix' it by having someone else push the file, then delete the offending commit. Happens with bash in windows or GitHub Desktop. No one has ever been able to fix it. I have just tried to not use large files.
      - sytse 8y ago
        That sounds annoying to deal with, I'm sorry this happens. I'm not sure what the best next step is.
        SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
        Yea, IDK. I’ll watch for it again, but in the meantime; it’s very nice to have the CEO of gitlab ask me about my silly large file problem :) If I ever consider leaving Gitlab I’ll weight this exchange against that.
amyjess 8y ago
On the other hand, it's also "Oops, GitHub will never give us an embargoed announcement again, and a lot of other companies will probably follow suit."
siruncledrew 8y ago
Are there usually ramifications for leaking stories early like this? Would GitHub be peeved if another source published this before their official PR statement?
- AdamGibbins 8y ago
  They won't get any more early news, so everyone else will get it before them. That's the usual way news embargo's work anyhow.
- brown9-2 8y ago
  "embargo" means Github gave this news to this outlet (and others) early, to be able to work on quotes and stuff. By breaking the embargo, accidentally or not, a possible ramification is getting fewer embargos in the future, if an outlet proves they can't be trusted.
- jdietrich 8y ago
  Accidental breaches do happen; they're embarrassing, but not critical. Deliberately or repeatedly breaching embargos will quickly put you on a blacklist. Nobody is going to provide you with embargoed press releases if they don't trust you.
laumars 8y ago
This genuinely seems like an accident judging by the authors Tweets: https://twitter.com/matthewhughes https://twitter.com/matthewhughes
- egeozcan 8y ago
  If I could ever get over the fact that they are using Wordpress, I still wouldn't be able to explain how a single person can set dates and publish stories on their own?!
  - ktm5j 8y ago
    At some point, it's one persons responsibility to enter that date into a computer in some fashion.. is he supposed to share the keyboard with someone?
    - travisjungroth 8y ago
      You require someone to verify the date. Then the verifier accepts them without looking because they've never been wrong before, and then we're right back where we started, except with more people to blame.
    - deleted 8y ago
      [deleted]
  - bovermyer 8y ago
    WordPress is used a lot more commonly in the news industry than you think.
  - lgregg 8y ago
    It’s better than using WordPress to run ecommerce. News content types are close enough to blogs.
  - hluska 8y ago
    I don't work for TNW and have never written for them, but web editing often works like this: 1.) Author submits an article often as a word file. 2.) Editor starts working on the word file. 3.) Author and editor do 1-5 rounds of edits using track changes. 4.) Editor says "Great, post it to run at xx:xx on mm-dd." 5.) The author actually logs in and makes the post. If you're thinking that technology we use every day could solve this problem, you're right! Alas, it's harder to fix years of habits than the technical issues behind the habits.

I wonder if they reached out to GitHub to see if they felt it was alright to keep this up? Might be good if the author could clarify! Either way, really cool news.

SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
Definitely cool news, even if it is a max of 3 contributors. I'd have liked to seen that a little higher, but they surely know what they're basing that number on. It's not enough to pull me from GitLab just yet, but if I keep having 10MB+ issues there, I'll switch.
- sytse 8y ago
  What issue are you having on GitLab? Do you mean the attachment limit? https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/support-forum/issues/2654 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/support-forum/issues/2654 How large is it on GitHub and BitBucket?
  - SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
    Don't know what it is exactly. But definitely within the last year, I'll occasionally add a >10MB pdf or something and can't push that commit up, broken socket everytime. Same thing occasionally happens with a coworker. I 'fix' it by having someone else push the file, then delete the offending commit. Happens with bash in windows or GitHub Desktop. No one has ever been able to fix it. I have just tried to not use large files.
    - sytse 8y ago
      That sounds annoying to deal with, I'm sorry this happens. I'm not sure what the best next step is.
      - SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
        Yea, IDK. I’ll watch for it again, but in the meantime; it’s very nice to have the CEO of gitlab ask me about my silly large file problem :) If I ever consider leaving Gitlab I’ll weight this exchange against that.

amyjess 8y ago

On the other hand, it's also "Oops, GitHub will never give us an embargoed announcement again, and a lot of other companies will probably follow suit."

siruncledrew 8y ago

Are there usually ramifications for leaking stories early like this? Would GitHub be peeved if another source published this before their official PR statement?

AdamGibbins 8y ago
They won't get any more early news, so everyone else will get it before them. That's the usual way news embargo's work anyhow.
brown9-2 8y ago
"embargo" means Github gave this news to this outlet (and others) early, to be able to work on quotes and stuff. By breaking the embargo, accidentally or not, a possible ramification is getting fewer embargos in the future, if an outlet proves they can't be trusted.
jdietrich 8y ago
Accidental breaches do happen; they're embarrassing, but not critical. Deliberately or repeatedly breaching embargos will quickly put you on a blacklist. Nobody is going to provide you with embargoed press releases if they don't trust you.

laumars 8y ago

This genuinely seems like an accident judging by the authors Tweets: https://twitter.com/matthewhughes https://twitter.com/matthewhughes

egeozcan 8y ago
If I could ever get over the fact that they are using Wordpress, I still wouldn't be able to explain how a single person can set dates and publish stories on their own?!
- ktm5j 8y ago
  At some point, it's one persons responsibility to enter that date into a computer in some fashion.. is he supposed to share the keyboard with someone?
  - travisjungroth 8y ago
    You require someone to verify the date. Then the verifier accepts them without looking because they've never been wrong before, and then we're right back where we started, except with more people to blame.
  - deleted 8y ago
    [deleted]
- bovermyer 8y ago
  WordPress is used a lot more commonly in the news industry than you think.
- lgregg 8y ago
  It’s better than using WordPress to run ecommerce. News content types are close enough to blogs.
- hluska 8y ago
  I don't work for TNW and have never written for them, but web editing often works like this: 1.) Author submits an article often as a word file. 2.) Editor starts working on the word file. 3.) Author and editor do 1-5 rounds of edits using track changes. 4.) Editor says "Great, post it to run at xx:xx on mm-dd." 5.) The author actually logs in and makes the post. If you're thinking that technology we use every day could solve this problem, you're right! Alas, it's harder to fix years of habits than the technical issues behind the habits.