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I have been doing DevOps since before it had a name. Been running on AWS for the better part of 8 years now and running multiple production environments for cl

I have been doing DevOps since before it had a name. Been running on AWS for the better part of 8 years now and running multiple production environments for clients and as an employee. Over the years, I have seen the term "DevOps" slapped on so many things I don't even know what it means anymore. For some, it's a culture, for some, it's a team, for some, it's a role. SRE is now getting the same treatment. No idea what it means most of the time.

JamesBarney 8y ago
Most of the time I see the word people are talking about deployment automations. But DepAuts doesn't sound as good. A person who specializes in deployment automation, a company that has a culture in investing in deployment, a team that specializes in deployment automations.
- LaserToy 8y ago
  Deployment automation is an engineering task that can be designed, implemented, deployed by an engineering team. It could be an internal Software Delivery product
busterarm 8y ago
IMO, the only places where it's done successfully view it as a culture and neither of the other two. That said, the easiest way to make yourself more 'in-demand' right now is to make it your title. As someone who does ops and development, when I look around in the market and see companies hiring full time devops roles, I usually see big red flags. The only jobs that I tend to want lately are on development side at small companies or the operations side at larger ones.
- paulie_a 8y ago
  I tend to see Dev ops as mostly ops but a background in dev. They can step in and understand the development environment, but generally they are going to make life easier for the devs. it's an important role, but having some developer background is nice while they kick ass getting things done. Your standard sys admin will do the job but generally get a big eyes look on their face when you ask about something outside of their wheelhouse.
LaserToy 8y ago
Yup, our ops call themselves DevOps and SREs in the same meeting, not doing any of it.

JamesBarney 8y ago

Most of the time I see the word people are talking about deployment automations. But DepAuts doesn't sound as good. A person who specializes in deployment automation, a company that has a culture in investing in deployment, a team that specializes in deployment automations.

LaserToy 8y ago
Deployment automation is an engineering task that can be designed, implemented, deployed by an engineering team. It could be an internal Software Delivery product

busterarm 8y ago

IMO, the only places where it's done successfully view it as a culture and neither of the other two. That said, the easiest way to make yourself more 'in-demand' right now is to make it your title. As someone who does ops and development, when I look around in the market and see companies hiring full time devops roles, I usually see big red flags. The only jobs that I tend to want lately are on development side at small companies or the operations side at larger ones.

paulie_a 8y ago
I tend to see Dev ops as mostly ops but a background in dev. They can step in and understand the development environment, but generally they are going to make life easier for the devs. it's an important role, but having some developer background is nice while they kick ass getting things done. Your standard sys admin will do the job but generally get a big eyes look on their face when you ask about something outside of their wheelhouse.

LaserToy 8y ago

Yup, our ops call themselves DevOps and SREs in the same meeting, not doing any of it.