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% of people who will actually leave the US? I'd wager near 0.

by ausbah 8y ago

cowpig 8y ago
[citation needed]
- malvosenior 8y ago
  From the article: > It's important to note that people's desire to migrate is typically much higher than their intention to do so -- as such, it is unlikely that Americans will be flocking to the Canadian border. In fact, since Trump's election, Canadian statistics show only a modest uptick in the number of Americans who have moved to Canada.
  - josefresco 8y ago
    "modest uptick" != 0 Not negligible, not imperceptible ... modest.
- j4kp07 8y ago
  Wagers don't require citations. Get off your high horse.
m0zg 8y ago
I'd wager it's negative, actually. :-)
cazum 8y ago
yes, but that's going to be more a result of financial restrictions, not lack of real desire.
jknightco 8y ago
We left. Three years ago, for Spain. We're not planning on returning, barring some sort of international catastrophe.
- ThirdFoundation 8y ago
  If you don't mind me asking... Did you find a job before you left? Did you already speak Spanish?
- phrz 8y ago
  Do you have any good resources for someone looking to do exactly this?
- Djvacto 8y ago
  Would you mind sharing some of your experience (to whatever level you're comfortable with)? I actually have spanish citizenship as well as my US one, and have considered moving there (temporarily or permanently) to be closer to family a couple of times.
packet_nerd 8y ago
I left, in my early 20s, mostly as a way to expand my horizons and escape the suffocating conservative religious environment I grew up in. I recently came back to get a career in IT going, but will be moving again soon.
tdb7893 8y ago
Partially it's just really hard to move, visas can be hard to come by and moving away from family is difficult. For what it's worth though my parents currently live in Amsterdam (and love it) and my in laws moved to Canada. My cousin moved to New Zealand, my uncle to Rome, and my wife is trying to convince me to go to England. It's obviously an outlier case but about 1/4 of my family has left and they all seem to prefer being out.
maxxxxx 8y ago
Outside a few job categories like tech emigration is quite difficult so I also expect the actual number to be quite low. A lot of people may also realize that other countries also have a lot of problems. The US is a pretty good place to live. This is coming.from.a German who lives in the US and is generally quite critical of this country.
- jdhn 8y ago
  >Outside a few job categories like tech emigration is quite difficult This is the flip side of the whole "I'd like to leave the US" movement that is hardly ever talked about. A lot of people who express these desires to leave and gain citizenship elsewhere simply do not have the credentials to do so.
cmurf 8y ago
It looks like the State Department doesn't keep such a statistic, but the estimate is in the vicinity of 2%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_diaspora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_diaspora It's definitely non-zero, but there's also no evidence actual percentage of expats has increased even if reported desire to become one has increased.

% of people who will actually leave the US? I'd wager near 0.

by ausbah 8y ago

% of people who will actually leave the US? I'd wager near 0.

cowpig 8y ago

[citation needed]

malvosenior 8y ago
From the article: > It's important to note that people's desire to migrate is typically much higher than their intention to do so -- as such, it is unlikely that Americans will be flocking to the Canadian border. In fact, since Trump's election, Canadian statistics show only a modest uptick in the number of Americans who have moved to Canada.
- josefresco 8y ago
  "modest uptick" != 0 Not negligible, not imperceptible ... modest.
j4kp07 8y ago
Wagers don't require citations. Get off your high horse.

m0zg 8y ago

I'd wager it's negative, actually. :-)

cazum 8y ago

yes, but that's going to be more a result of financial restrictions, not lack of real desire.

jknightco 8y ago

We left. Three years ago, for Spain. We're not planning on returning, barring some sort of international catastrophe.

ThirdFoundation 8y ago
If you don't mind me asking... Did you find a job before you left? Did you already speak Spanish?
phrz 8y ago
Do you have any good resources for someone looking to do exactly this?
Djvacto 8y ago
Would you mind sharing some of your experience (to whatever level you're comfortable with)? I actually have spanish citizenship as well as my US one, and have considered moving there (temporarily or permanently) to be closer to family a couple of times.

packet_nerd 8y ago

I left, in my early 20s, mostly as a way to expand my horizons and escape the suffocating conservative religious environment I grew up in. I recently came back to get a career in IT going, but will be moving again soon.

tdb7893 8y ago

Partially it's just really hard to move, visas can be hard to come by and moving away from family is difficult. For what it's worth though my parents currently live in Amsterdam (and love it) and my in laws moved to Canada. My cousin moved to New Zealand, my uncle to Rome, and my wife is trying to convince me to go to England. It's obviously an outlier case but about 1/4 of my family has left and they all seem to prefer being out.

maxxxxx 8y ago

Outside a few job categories like tech emigration is quite difficult so I also expect the actual number to be quite low. A lot of people may also realize that other countries also have a lot of problems. The US is a pretty good place to live. This is coming.from.a German who lives in the US and is generally quite critical of this country.

jdhn 8y ago
>Outside a few job categories like tech emigration is quite difficult This is the flip side of the whole "I'd like to leave the US" movement that is hardly ever talked about. A lot of people who express these desires to leave and gain citizenship elsewhere simply do not have the credentials to do so.

cmurf 8y ago

It looks like the State Department doesn't keep such a statistic, but the estimate is in the vicinity of 2%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_diaspora https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_diaspora It's definitely non-zero, but there's also no evidence actual percentage of expats has increased even if reported desire to become one has increased.