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These rules are subject to local legislation. Switzerland and Norway can renegotiate any time they want and occasionally do so. https://www.dw.com/en/switzerla

These rules are subject to local legislation. Switzerland and Norway can renegotiate any time they want and occasionally do so. https://www.dw.com/en/switzerland-ignores-eu-deadline-for-treaty/a-46639844 https://www.dw.com/en/switzerland-ignores-eu-deadline-for-tr... This is a much stronger position to be in and the UK is a much larger "adversary" in tough negotiations (and has always been even within the EU).

Xylakant 8y ago
Switzerland is trying to renegotiate the full freedom of movement that they have accepted previously and while this negotiation stalls, the old rules stay in place. There’s no reason the UK cannot negotiate their levels of access to the EU market like the Swiss or the Norwegians do, but the EU won’t grant full access without full freedom of movement. In fact, all of this is what’s happening now. How strong the UK negotiation position is can currently be observed.
- lazyjones 8y ago
  > How strong the UK negotiation position is can currently be observed. There's a lot of scaremongering going around. The "no deal" scenario is terrifying for the EU as well, especially if the Britons don't pay the 39b and shut down their market. Unfortunately, the current EU administration has a track record of self-inflicted wounds (e.g. Russia sanctions), so this is the most likely scenario now.
  - JAlexoid 8y ago
    EU isn't a single country, you know... And there are no countries that will collapse without those 39bn. There's also the fun fact - UK will not get it's rebates.
JAlexoid 8y ago
You clearly have little clue how Switzerland manages the relationship with EU. The Swiss are literally waiting for UK to leave EU, to see what they can demand. And they also want to restrict immigration... Guess who's going to find it harder to negotiate as a result? UK, for trying to get an ultra special deal...
- CaptainZapp 8y ago
  And they also want to restrict immigration... Let me clarify that. The populace very narrowly said yes to a referendum, which was supposed to restrict immigration[1]. Parliament implented it in a way, which was pretty toothless towards EU citizens who want to move and work to Switzerland, letting the Swiss Popular Party (SVP) going balistic. Herein lies the rub: The population accepted the bilaterals with ~60% yes (if I recall correctly, I could be slightly off), but the immigration initiative with just slightly > 50%. The problem is that you can't have it both ways. In essence the country would have to cancel the bilateral contracts in order to restrict immigration to EU citizens. The current tensions are derived from a couple issues : The EU wants a frame agreement so that that not every piss squiek new regulation needs to be negotiated, which is understandable One of the sticky issues, though, is the regulation on EU companies (mostly contractors), which need to pre-announce work done in Switzerland 8 days in advance. The reason for that is to avoid sallary dumping, which makes sense, since salaries can be significantly larger in Switzerland and their minimums are negotiated in binding contracts between unions and employers. The EU thinks those requirements are too restrictive and the unions in Switzerland fight tooth and nail against softening those requirements. Befor yelling unions! I have to say their position is understandable. The risk of hit and run contractors working for 1/3rd of the negotiated sallaries is just too big. My prediction is that middle ground will be found eventually after the EU plays some hardball. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Swiss_immigration_initiative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Swiss_immigration_initiat... edit : some clarifications and spellos

Xylakant 8y ago

Switzerland is trying to renegotiate the full freedom of movement that they have accepted previously and while this negotiation stalls, the old rules stay in place. There’s no reason the UK cannot negotiate their levels of access to the EU market like the Swiss or the Norwegians do, but the EU won’t grant full access without full freedom of movement. In fact, all of this is what’s happening now. How strong the UK negotiation position is can currently be observed.

lazyjones 8y ago
> How strong the UK negotiation position is can currently be observed. There's a lot of scaremongering going around. The "no deal" scenario is terrifying for the EU as well, especially if the Britons don't pay the 39b and shut down their market. Unfortunately, the current EU administration has a track record of self-inflicted wounds (e.g. Russia sanctions), so this is the most likely scenario now.
- JAlexoid 8y ago
  EU isn't a single country, you know... And there are no countries that will collapse without those 39bn. There's also the fun fact - UK will not get it's rebates.

JAlexoid 8y ago

You clearly have little clue how Switzerland manages the relationship with EU. The Swiss are literally waiting for UK to leave EU, to see what they can demand. And they also want to restrict immigration... Guess who's going to find it harder to negotiate as a result? UK, for trying to get an ultra special deal...

CaptainZapp 8y ago
And they also want to restrict immigration... Let me clarify that. The populace very narrowly said yes to a referendum, which was supposed to restrict immigration[1]. Parliament implented it in a way, which was pretty toothless towards EU citizens who want to move and work to Switzerland, letting the Swiss Popular Party (SVP) going balistic. Herein lies the rub: The population accepted the bilaterals with ~60% yes (if I recall correctly, I could be slightly off), but the immigration initiative with just slightly > 50%. The problem is that you can't have it both ways. In essence the country would have to cancel the bilateral contracts in order to restrict immigration to EU citizens. The current tensions are derived from a couple issues : The EU wants a frame agreement so that that not every piss squiek new regulation needs to be negotiated, which is understandable One of the sticky issues, though, is the regulation on EU companies (mostly contractors), which need to pre-announce work done in Switzerland 8 days in advance. The reason for that is to avoid sallary dumping, which makes sense, since salaries can be significantly larger in Switzerland and their minimums are negotiated in binding contracts between unions and employers. The EU thinks those requirements are too restrictive and the unions in Switzerland fight tooth and nail against softening those requirements. Befor yelling unions! I have to say their position is understandable. The risk of hit and run contractors working for 1/3rd of the negotiated sallaries is just too big. My prediction is that middle ground will be found eventually after the EU plays some hardball. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Swiss_immigration_initiative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Swiss_immigration_initiat... edit : some clarifications and spellos