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The problem is that teaching people to restrain their impulses using a fear of punishment is totally different from getting them to change their behavior becaus
by jschwartzi 8y ago
The problem is that teaching people to restrain their impulses using a fear of punishment is totally different from getting them to change their behavior because they understand why the behavior is bad. When you simply punish someone without teaching them to understand you create a system of unwritten rules where the person is unsure whether any particular action will result in a punishment or not.
But if you can create an understanding of why the action was bad then you can give the person a toolset to understand whether their future actions will be bad. And hopefully you can create a society of people whose behavior is determined by their understanding of right and wrong and not by whether or not they think they will be punished for something.
I think you're grossly oversimplifying the way people work if you don't see the difference here.
- ksdale 8y agoThis. If parents expect their kids to obey for fear of punishment, they’re teaching the lesson that you obey people who are stronger than you. Out in the real world, when someone tells you to obey because they are stronger, you tell them to stuff it. It is widely agreed that in society, people need better reasons to be obeyed than that (even if the strong do tend to get their way more often...). I think what you said about understanding future actions and disconnecting them from punishment is spot on.
- AvocadoPanic 8y agoOften punishment is the result of violating a written or established rule.