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i think the point he's making in that post is he does have the time, and more importantly the passion and will to do so. the compensation he was receiving for h

by mylons 8y ago

i think the point he's making in that post is he does have the time, and more importantly the passion and will to do so. the compensation he was receiving for having to work at a large org wasn't fair, and that's why he's changing directions.

Cthulhu_ 8y ago
Are there companies (outside of Mozilla) that would hire (or at least pay) someone like that to keep working on Rust and its documentation? These people are too important to not pay enough. I know it's perceived to be the price you pay if you work for a foundation like Mozilla (or open source software), but it's not fair. I've seen a guy who worked full time on open source have a Patreon, which had a few big sponsors that would pay / donate $5K or $10k / month - that's another good option IMO. Although I'd donate it directly to him, instead of having Patreon scoop off their share.
- steveklabnik 8y ago
  There are a few companies who give some of their employees paid time to contribute to the parts of Rust that matter to them. As a team, we've been trying to figure out how to increase that number. We'll see!
- Touche 8y ago
  There are a few, but by in large, no. You have to have a company where OSS is part of the business model to some degree. For most companies, the proposition for open source is that you get something of value for (almost) free. If you start paying someone to work on that thing the equation becomes more complicated. Now you are competing with 1) A different flavor of free (another project) and 2) Non-free but with an SLA that you can count on.
- deskamess 8y ago
  One company that values documentation is Microsoft. There are technologies like Web Assembly/Blazor that could use an evangelist. Web Assembly within the framework of .NET Core+VS Code could be worth pushing.
  - meuk 8y ago
    Microsoft's documentation is really bad, in my opinion. So maybe Microsoft would be a good choice for Steve after all ;)
- elorm 8y ago
  One of my favorite companies of all time, NoRedInk, hired Evan the creator of Elm full time just to work on ElmLang. I think it shouldn’t be too hard for any company relying on Rust in production to hire Steve or some of his team members.

by mylons 8y ago

Cthulhu_ 8y ago

Are there companies (outside of Mozilla) that would hire (or at least pay) someone like that to keep working on Rust and its documentation? These people are too important to not pay enough. I know it's perceived to be the price you pay if you work for a foundation like Mozilla (or open source software), but it's not fair. I've seen a guy who worked full time on open source have a Patreon, which had a few big sponsors that would pay / donate $5K or $10k / month - that's another good option IMO. Although I'd donate it directly to him, instead of having Patreon scoop off their share.

steveklabnik 8y ago
There are a few companies who give some of their employees paid time to contribute to the parts of Rust that matter to them. As a team, we've been trying to figure out how to increase that number. We'll see!
Touche 8y ago
There are a few, but by in large, no. You have to have a company where OSS is part of the business model to some degree. For most companies, the proposition for open source is that you get something of value for (almost) free. If you start paying someone to work on that thing the equation becomes more complicated. Now you are competing with 1) A different flavor of free (another project) and 2) Non-free but with an SLA that you can count on.
deskamess 8y ago
One company that values documentation is Microsoft. There are technologies like Web Assembly/Blazor that could use an evangelist. Web Assembly within the framework of .NET Core+VS Code could be worth pushing.
- meuk 8y ago
  Microsoft's documentation is really bad, in my opinion. So maybe Microsoft would be a good choice for Steve after all ;)
elorm 8y ago
One of my favorite companies of all time, NoRedInk, hired Evan the creator of Elm full time just to work on ElmLang. I think it shouldn’t be too hard for any company relying on Rust in production to hire Steve or some of his team members.