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This title is misleading, should be "Huawei claims to unveil Industry's Highest-Performance ARM-Based CPU"

by tumetab1 8y ago

arghwhat 8y ago
Well, they probably do have the title for now. What they have done is interesting, even if marketing had to smear it.
- dragontamer 8y ago
  I dunno. Fujitsu's A64FX has incredible specifications. Fujitsu's A64FX is 7nm-class, and has those SVE extensions for incredible throughput. It is expected to be in several supercomputers soon. I expect that the A64FX is the fastest ARM in the world.
  - arghwhat 8y ago
    The Huawei specs are still a bit to limited for a full comparison, but it does use the same process. The big questions involve how Huawei's 8 DDR4 channels compare to Fujitsu's 4 HBM2 banks, how Huawei's 64 cores compare to Fujitsu's 48. Even if their IP is worse, they seem to have brute-forced their way to the top.
detaro 8y ago
Does it really need pointing out that a headline on huawai.com is a claim by Huawai?
- acdha 8y ago
  It's less that it's a claim by Huawei and more that the claims haven't been verified independently. Competitive benchmarking has a long history of results which are hard to reproduce and comparisons which “accidentally” left the competing product in an unusual state, so it's prudent to distrust them until they can be verified independently.
  - paraditedc 8y ago
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    - chaosite 8y ago
      It's a press release. They're always worded like that.
      - paraditedc 8y ago
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        myrandomcomment 8y ago
        I am not sure what industry you are in but if you go read press releases from the likes of most of the networking companies you see all the time “bob networking unveils the biggest flubar...” or the like as standard practice. Heck I have had to edit some of these for technical correctness before the marketing team puts their foot in it..
        paraditedc 8y ago
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        chaosite 8y ago
        Where are you looking? For Cisco, their press releases seem to be here: https://newsroom.cisco.com/pressreleases https://newsroom.cisco.com/pressreleases I haven't looked through all of them because I'm lazy, but scrolling through them I haven't yet found one that isn't in the 3rd person.
        freehunter 8y ago
        And in case anyone is wondering why they do that: press releases are intended to be used in an article verbatim. Headline and all. Press releases are written from third person perspective because that's how a reporter would write it. And if you go on Google and search some text from a press release, you'll find tons of articles using the headline and body completely verbatim like it's their own article. This is intentional.
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dang 8y ago
We reduced the title above.

This title is misleading, should be "Huawei claims to unveil Industry's Highest-Performance ARM-Based CPU"

arghwhat 8y ago

Well, they probably do have the title for now. What they have done is interesting, even if marketing had to smear it.

dragontamer 8y ago
I dunno. Fujitsu's A64FX has incredible specifications. Fujitsu's A64FX is 7nm-class, and has those SVE extensions for incredible throughput. It is expected to be in several supercomputers soon. I expect that the A64FX is the fastest ARM in the world.
- arghwhat 8y ago
  The Huawei specs are still a bit to limited for a full comparison, but it does use the same process. The big questions involve how Huawei's 8 DDR4 channels compare to Fujitsu's 4 HBM2 banks, how Huawei's 64 cores compare to Fujitsu's 48. Even if their IP is worse, they seem to have brute-forced their way to the top.

detaro 8y ago

Does it really need pointing out that a headline on huawai.com is a claim by Huawai?

acdha 8y ago
It's less that it's a claim by Huawei and more that the claims haven't been verified independently. Competitive benchmarking has a long history of results which are hard to reproduce and comparisons which “accidentally” left the competing product in an unusual state, so it's prudent to distrust them until they can be verified independently.
- paraditedc 8y ago
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  - chaosite 8y ago
    It's a press release. They're always worded like that.
    - paraditedc 8y ago
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      - myrandomcomment 8y ago
        I am not sure what industry you are in but if you go read press releases from the likes of most of the networking companies you see all the time “bob networking unveils the biggest flubar...” or the like as standard practice. Heck I have had to edit some of these for technical correctness before the marketing team puts their foot in it..
        paraditedc 8y ago
        .
        chaosite 8y ago
        Where are you looking? For Cisco, their press releases seem to be here: https://newsroom.cisco.com/pressreleases https://newsroom.cisco.com/pressreleases I haven't looked through all of them because I'm lazy, but scrolling through them I haven't yet found one that isn't in the 3rd person.
        freehunter 8y ago
        And in case anyone is wondering why they do that: press releases are intended to be used in an article verbatim. Headline and all. Press releases are written from third person perspective because that's how a reporter would write it. And if you go on Google and search some text from a press release, you'll find tons of articles using the headline and body completely verbatim like it's their own article. This is intentional.

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dang 8y ago

We reduced the title above.