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Steve Jobs essentially described what was later coined "The Innovator's Dilemma"[1], but in a more general way. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Innovator

by krn 8y ago

Steve Jobs essentially described what was later coined "The Innovator's Dilemma"[1], but in a more general way. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Innovator%27s_Dilemma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Innovator%27s_Dilemma

ksec 8y ago
WOW! I didn't knew the book was so new, and I thought Steve read it and understand it better than anyone else. Turns out he figure it out all by himself! It is also worth mention a lot of people running the company properly know or read "The Innovator's Dilemma", but to actually understand and put things into action is a completely different things. Shareholders just don't like risk.
scarface74 8y ago
Actually he didn’t. The Innovators Dilemma is about making a product that “overserves” the market and for companies being afraid to introduce a cheaper “good enough” product. Also the author of the Innovators Dilemma was laughably wrong about the iPhone. https://medium.com/@jakewheadon/why-i-think-clay-christensen-missed-the-iphone-and-what-it-means-for-wearables-befaf6c682bb https://medium.com/@jakewheadon/why-i-think-clay-christensen...
- bergie 8y ago
  > The Innovators Dilemma is about making a product that “overserves” the market and for companies being afraid to introduce a cheaper “good enough” product. Isn't that essentially the problem Apple now has with: * The high-end iPhones going up in price because of more expensive components, but not providing features users would be excited to upgrade for * Not bringing a mid-range phone to the market
  - scarface74 8y ago
    Whether that’s Apple’s problem or not is tangential to whether or not Jobs was describing the Innovators Dilemma. But Apple’s main problem is not the high cost of phones. Apple’s problem are: * The iPhone is good enough for most people and the upgrade cycle is lengthening. The iPhone 6s from 2015 is faster than midrange new Android phones and is actually still faster than even high end Android Phones in single core performance. No one is going to upgrade to a mid range phone. The iPhone 6s is still getting OS updates and probably will for at least two more years. * the average selling price of an Android phone in $265 - $315 depending on which source you believe (https://www.cnet.com/news/why-your-iphone-and-android-will-cost-more-in-2019/ https://www.cnet.com/news/why-your-iphone-and-android-will-c...). Even the low end iPhone SE was selling for more than that. The 7 is a midrange Phone by iPhone standards and it is $475. If they dropped the price to $350, it would still be more than the average Android user would be willing to pay. Yes the $329 iPad is proof that they could make a profitable iPhone that was good enough for most people. They charge an extra $130 for cellular and GPS but the chip couldn’t cost anymore than $30. * I doubt that Apple could make a phone that was cheap enough to lure Chinese buyers and still be a decent phone.
nolok 8y ago
Because the problem was known, acknowledged and understood before the book was released ? The book coined the name, not the effect.

by krn 8y ago

ksec 8y ago

WOW! I didn't knew the book was so new, and I thought Steve read it and understand it better than anyone else. Turns out he figure it out all by himself! It is also worth mention a lot of people running the company properly know or read "The Innovator's Dilemma", but to actually understand and put things into action is a completely different things. Shareholders just don't like risk.

scarface74 8y ago

Actually he didn’t. The Innovators Dilemma is about making a product that “overserves” the market and for companies being afraid to introduce a cheaper “good enough” product. Also the author of the Innovators Dilemma was laughably wrong about the iPhone. https://medium.com/@jakewheadon/why-i-think-clay-christensen-missed-the-iphone-and-what-it-means-for-wearables-befaf6c682bb https://medium.com/@jakewheadon/why-i-think-clay-christensen...

bergie 8y ago
> The Innovators Dilemma is about making a product that “overserves” the market and for companies being afraid to introduce a cheaper “good enough” product. Isn't that essentially the problem Apple now has with: * The high-end iPhones going up in price because of more expensive components, but not providing features users would be excited to upgrade for * Not bringing a mid-range phone to the market
- scarface74 8y ago
  Whether that’s Apple’s problem or not is tangential to whether or not Jobs was describing the Innovators Dilemma. But Apple’s main problem is not the high cost of phones. Apple’s problem are: * The iPhone is good enough for most people and the upgrade cycle is lengthening. The iPhone 6s from 2015 is faster than midrange new Android phones and is actually still faster than even high end Android Phones in single core performance. No one is going to upgrade to a mid range phone. The iPhone 6s is still getting OS updates and probably will for at least two more years. * the average selling price of an Android phone in $265 - $315 depending on which source you believe (https://www.cnet.com/news/why-your-iphone-and-android-will-cost-more-in-2019/ https://www.cnet.com/news/why-your-iphone-and-android-will-c...). Even the low end iPhone SE was selling for more than that. The 7 is a midrange Phone by iPhone standards and it is $475. If they dropped the price to $350, it would still be more than the average Android user would be willing to pay. Yes the $329 iPad is proof that they could make a profitable iPhone that was good enough for most people. They charge an extra $130 for cellular and GPS but the chip couldn’t cost anymore than $30. * I doubt that Apple could make a phone that was cheap enough to lure Chinese buyers and still be a decent phone.

nolok 8y ago

Because the problem was known, acknowledged and understood before the book was released ? The book coined the name, not the effect.