I don't quite understand what you're replying to. The experimental and unreliable scheme they describe is used by WhatsApp, who have probably an order of magnit

I don't quite understand what you're replying to. The experimental and unreliable scheme they describe is used by WhatsApp, who have probably an order of magnitude or two more daily users. I'm not saying threema is unsuccessful. I am saying their justification for not providing end-to-end forward secrecy isn't really valid.