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Asinine or not, he certainly had a point with rule 3: "There must be no love interest in the story. To introduce amour is to clutter up a purely intellectual ex

Asinine or not, he certainly had a point with rule 3: "There must be no love interest in the story. To introduce amour is to clutter up a purely intellectual experience with irrelevant sentiment. The business in hand is to bring a criminal to the bar of justice, not to bring a lovelorn couple to the hymeneal altar." If only the makers of genre movies would take this rule to heart! It would make for tighter plots and shorter running times. How many thrillers, action flicks, superhero films, disaster, spy and scifi movies have been marred by inserting some half-baked love story into it?

watwut 8y ago
While I hear your point, not being too much into love stories, all those mentioned genres have so much repetition and pointless fluff, that presence of love story is smaller problem. As in, fix plot holes and half baked dumbness in writing and the impact will be much bigger then usually few minutes of fanservice in the presence of minor romance. We are talking about genres that completely lost any suspense and thrill, because ending is predictable from the beginning.
- adrianN 8y ago
  Exactly. I would already be happy if the characters would think before they act.
- kieckerjan 8y ago
  Granted. Although I am often amazed by the amount of bad scriptwriting going on in genre movies (I mean come on, how much do they pay these writers?), I cannot be very offended by it. In genre movies the plot is usually little more than an excuse to get from one set-piece to another. In action movies such a set-piece would be a chase or stuff blowing up, in kung-fu movies it would be a fight, in horror movies something horrible, in porn... well you get my drift.
  - watwut 8y ago
    For me, it killed pleasure from watching them and I used to like them. Especially in horror, to be scared I need to sort of believe it. When I don't, then it becomes merely disgusting. Similar with fights, I don't feel thrill nor anything of the sort anymore. I used to like fights, but when all characters act like unreal idiots I end up wishing they all killed each other in the end. They never do. It is as if genre movies completely resigned on story and writing. It is just eye candy at this point. I don't think it used to always be like that, because I have seen some older movies lately and characters (including supporting cast) made more sense.
vinceguidry 8y ago
I was talking to an actor friend yesterday, one of the things he said was that if you think about story narrative in terms of compressing human experience, romance stories have the highest 'ratio'. You can unpack an mind-boggling amount of information from even the most trivial and silly onscreen romance. Every glance, every change in tone of voice, conveys meaning. After hearing that, I can now see why they get added to every single movie.
kevinmchugh 8y ago
The superhero and spy genres have their own traditions, and both include love stories. It's part of the escapist fantasy and often used to raise the stakes, by eg putting Lois in danger.

watwut 8y ago

While I hear your point, not being too much into love stories, all those mentioned genres have so much repetition and pointless fluff, that presence of love story is smaller problem. As in, fix plot holes and half baked dumbness in writing and the impact will be much bigger then usually few minutes of fanservice in the presence of minor romance. We are talking about genres that completely lost any suspense and thrill, because ending is predictable from the beginning.

adrianN 8y ago
Exactly. I would already be happy if the characters would think before they act.
kieckerjan 8y ago
Granted. Although I am often amazed by the amount of bad scriptwriting going on in genre movies (I mean come on, how much do they pay these writers?), I cannot be very offended by it. In genre movies the plot is usually little more than an excuse to get from one set-piece to another. In action movies such a set-piece would be a chase or stuff blowing up, in kung-fu movies it would be a fight, in horror movies something horrible, in porn... well you get my drift.
- watwut 8y ago
  For me, it killed pleasure from watching them and I used to like them. Especially in horror, to be scared I need to sort of believe it. When I don't, then it becomes merely disgusting. Similar with fights, I don't feel thrill nor anything of the sort anymore. I used to like fights, but when all characters act like unreal idiots I end up wishing they all killed each other in the end. They never do. It is as if genre movies completely resigned on story and writing. It is just eye candy at this point. I don't think it used to always be like that, because I have seen some older movies lately and characters (including supporting cast) made more sense.

vinceguidry 8y ago

I was talking to an actor friend yesterday, one of the things he said was that if you think about story narrative in terms of compressing human experience, romance stories have the highest 'ratio'. You can unpack an mind-boggling amount of information from even the most trivial and silly onscreen romance. Every glance, every change in tone of voice, conveys meaning. After hearing that, I can now see why they get added to every single movie.

kevinmchugh 8y ago

The superhero and spy genres have their own traditions, and both include love stories. It's part of the escapist fantasy and often used to raise the stakes, by eg putting Lois in danger.