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Someone made the point that Apples margins are quite consistent and have been for years. But a larger proportion of their revenue comes from services which are

Someone made the point that Apples margins are quite consistent and have been for years. But a larger proportion of their revenue comes from services which are normally very high margin. Which implies that they are actually cutting their margins on hardware - in other words the phones are expensive because they cost more to build, not because Apple are getting greedy.

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have_faith 8y ago
> because they cost more to build Then they should offer models that are cheaper to manufacture, like the 5c. I'm surprised not to see a successor to the 5c. Maybe they are worried it would be too popular and gouge sales of flagship models negating some of their premium branding. I'm currently on a 6s and see no update path for myself, I would happily sacrifice faceID and some of the higher-end phone materials for a modern paired down iPhone. I have about as much confidence in this appearing though as them fixing the state of the keyboards on the MBP's.
- benzoate 8y ago
  The 5c was essentially an iPhone 5 (the previous years iPhone) in a plastic shell, with some other minor differences. Given that Apple are continuing to sell the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 you could say that the spirit of the 5c lives on (iPhone 7 is $450, vaguely the same price as the 5C).
- SyneRyder 8y ago
  > I'm surprised not to see a successor to the 5c. Maybe they are worried it would be too popular... The 5C was a sales flop. In Australia, the 5S was outselling the 5C by eleven times [1]. Even in China, people were buying the more expensive iPhone rather than the plastic 5C one [2]. [1] https://www.smh.com.au/technology/australian-telcos-struggle-to-sell-iphone-5c-20130924-2ubc5.html https://www.smh.com.au/technology/australian-telcos-struggle... [2] https://techcrunch.com/2014/03/24/apples-iphone-5c-sales-story-is-a-complex-one/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/03/24/apples-iphone-5c-sales-sto...
  - yoz-y 8y ago
    Why people thought that the 5C was supposed to be a cheap phone for China is beyond me. Most people in China who can afford iPhones would not want to have "the cheap one".
  - withhighprod 8y ago
    yea funny. It’s well known Chinese like to buy expensive items and those can’t afford it will never buy iPhone.

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have_faith 8y ago

> because they cost more to build Then they should offer models that are cheaper to manufacture, like the 5c. I'm surprised not to see a successor to the 5c. Maybe they are worried it would be too popular and gouge sales of flagship models negating some of their premium branding. I'm currently on a 6s and see no update path for myself, I would happily sacrifice faceID and some of the higher-end phone materials for a modern paired down iPhone. I have about as much confidence in this appearing though as them fixing the state of the keyboards on the MBP's.

benzoate 8y ago
The 5c was essentially an iPhone 5 (the previous years iPhone) in a plastic shell, with some other minor differences. Given that Apple are continuing to sell the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 you could say that the spirit of the 5c lives on (iPhone 7 is $450, vaguely the same price as the 5C).
SyneRyder 8y ago
> I'm surprised not to see a successor to the 5c. Maybe they are worried it would be too popular... The 5C was a sales flop. In Australia, the 5S was outselling the 5C by eleven times [1]. Even in China, people were buying the more expensive iPhone rather than the plastic 5C one [2]. [1] https://www.smh.com.au/technology/australian-telcos-struggle-to-sell-iphone-5c-20130924-2ubc5.html https://www.smh.com.au/technology/australian-telcos-struggle... [2] https://techcrunch.com/2014/03/24/apples-iphone-5c-sales-story-is-a-complex-one/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/03/24/apples-iphone-5c-sales-sto...
- yoz-y 8y ago
  Why people thought that the 5C was supposed to be a cheap phone for China is beyond me. Most people in China who can afford iPhones would not want to have "the cheap one".
- withhighprod 8y ago
  yea funny. It’s well known Chinese like to buy expensive items and those can’t afford it will never buy iPhone.