To be fair, I think extremely ignorant people who don't follow any updates about scientific and technological progress probably still think that China is a scie

To be fair, I think extremely ignorant people who don't follow any updates about scientific and technological progress probably still think that China is a science backwater. But their opinions don't really matter because they don't really get involved in the conversation anyway, and at the odd times they do, they have large misconceptions like how coal usage is clean, beautiful, and good for the planet.