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>I notice your article/those scientist have nothing to say about the objective tests such as MRIs/hearing tests Well the actual study found no abnormalities in

>I notice your article/those scientist have nothing to say about the objective tests such as MRIs/hearing tests Well the actual study found no abnormalities in the imaging tests: "Most patients had conventional imaging findings, which were within normal limits, at most showing a few small nonspecific T2-bright foci in the white matter (n =9, 43%)" As for hearing loss: "Moderate to severe sensorineural hearing loss was identified in 3 individuals." So only 3 out of the 24 had some kind of hearing loss, and we don't know what their hearing was like before the incident.

will_brown 8y ago
So no it’s no longer a flawed study but one that supports that nothing occurred? I see, you must have missed the non-cherry picked parts, here is the conclusion for your benefit: >Results Of 24 individuals with suspected exposure identified by the US Department of State, 21 completed multidisciplinary evaluation an average of 203 days after exposure. Persistent symptoms (>3 months after exposure) were reported by these individuals including cognitive (n = 17, 81%), balance (n = 15, 71%), visual (n = 18, 86%), and auditory (n = 15, 68%) dysfunction, sleep impairment (n = 18, 86%), and headaches (n = 16, 76%). Objective findings included cognitive (n = 16, 76%), vestibular (n = 17, 81%), and oculomotor (n = 15, 71%) abnormalities. Moderate to severe sensorineural hearing loss was identified in 3 individuals. Pharmacologic intervention was required for persistent sleep dysfunction (n = 15, 71%) and headache (n = 12, 57%). Fourteen individuals (67%) were held from work at the time of multidisciplinary evaluation. Of those, 7 began graduated return to work with restrictions in place, home exercise programs, and higher-level work-focused cognitive rehabilitation. Conclusions and Relevance In this preliminary report of a retrospective case series, persistent cognitive, vestibular, and oculomotor dysfunction, as well as sleep impairment and headaches, were observed among US government personnel in Havana, Cuba, associated with reports of directional audible and/or sensory phenomena of unclear origin. These individuals appeared to have sustained injury to widespread brain networks without an associated history of head trauma.
- tim333 8y ago
  71% having balance problems 3 months later doesn't sound like the effect of crickets or other loud noises. Could be the microwave hypothesis though maybe? >In her analysis, Golomb concludes that "of hypotheses tendered to date, (RF/MW exposure) alone fits the facts, including the peculiar ones" regarding events in Cuba and China. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180829115456.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180829115456.h...
  - cpncrunch 8y ago
    >71% having balance problems 3 months later doesn't sound like the effect of crickets or other loud noises. That is true, but dizziness is consistent with health anxiety. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1532-5415.1994.tb06556.x https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1532-5415....
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will_brown 8y ago

So no it’s no longer a flawed study but one that supports that nothing occurred? I see, you must have missed the non-cherry picked parts, here is the conclusion for your benefit: >Results Of 24 individuals with suspected exposure identified by the US Department of State, 21 completed multidisciplinary evaluation an average of 203 days after exposure. Persistent symptoms (>3 months after exposure) were reported by these individuals including cognitive (n = 17, 81%), balance (n = 15, 71%), visual (n = 18, 86%), and auditory (n = 15, 68%) dysfunction, sleep impairment (n = 18, 86%), and headaches (n = 16, 76%). Objective findings included cognitive (n = 16, 76%), vestibular (n = 17, 81%), and oculomotor (n = 15, 71%) abnormalities. Moderate to severe sensorineural hearing loss was identified in 3 individuals. Pharmacologic intervention was required for persistent sleep dysfunction (n = 15, 71%) and headache (n = 12, 57%). Fourteen individuals (67%) were held from work at the time of multidisciplinary evaluation. Of those, 7 began graduated return to work with restrictions in place, home exercise programs, and higher-level work-focused cognitive rehabilitation. Conclusions and Relevance In this preliminary report of a retrospective case series, persistent cognitive, vestibular, and oculomotor dysfunction, as well as sleep impairment and headaches, were observed among US government personnel in Havana, Cuba, associated with reports of directional audible and/or sensory phenomena of unclear origin. These individuals appeared to have sustained injury to widespread brain networks without an associated history of head trauma.

tim333 8y ago
71% having balance problems 3 months later doesn't sound like the effect of crickets or other loud noises. Could be the microwave hypothesis though maybe? >In her analysis, Golomb concludes that "of hypotheses tendered to date, (RF/MW exposure) alone fits the facts, including the peculiar ones" regarding events in Cuba and China. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180829115456.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180829115456.h...
- cpncrunch 8y ago
  >71% having balance problems 3 months later doesn't sound like the effect of crickets or other loud noises. That is true, but dizziness is consistent with health anxiety. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1532-5415.1994.tb06556.x https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1532-5415....
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