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Looks like they raised money, and having received it used it on some questionable choices: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1313324524/hermes-eudoras-next-

Looks like they raised money, and having received it used it on some questionable choices: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1313324524/hermes-eudoras-next-generation/posts/2329358 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1313324524/hermes-eudor... Paying for phone bill? Buying software licenses? Perhaps that's a fair use of cash, but it feels a little icky.

jamespo 8y ago
Guy's bought himself an expensive phone to "communicate with the team" and the phone's not even available yet.
- 672093E2 8y ago
  Hmmm... interesting use of language: ..ab origine ..de novo ..fait accompli ..ipso facto ..ergo Not sure if this is satire or genuine but he comes across as a complete idiot. $170/month in mobile data - how??? I'm guessing that is DOA
  - Birch-san 8y ago
    looks like he's answering questions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18854055 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18854055
- scarejunba 8y ago
  Phone is also only $570 on IndieGogo wtf. The last time I funded a software development effort was neovim and those guys had stuff out super fast. A Github repo, plans, the binary. It’s a successful project. That is some gold standard development, imho.
  - honeywhite 8y ago
    Canadian and American dollars, remember. $570 US = $800ish Can. The Kickstarter is also in Canadian dollars.
maccard 8y ago
Jeez, that's awful. 2000 dollars on visual studio when community would suffice[0], 450 on incorporating and 900 bucks on his phone of choice. Couldn't he use email to communicate? What an awful use of donations for an open source project. He's also running another Kickstarter for the same project with no real goals... This screams cash grab to me! [0] Probably - but if you're big enough to require Enterprise you don't need to crowd fund 3k
- wojtczyk 8y ago
  Get vs enterprise for free via the biz spark program. Can’t support a guy with these kind of spending decisions with money or time.
throwaway9857 8y ago
This guy seems oblivious and grandiose, from what he is saying and how he says it. Another throwaway comment (dead) pointed out his unusually flowery, ostentatious vocabulary. I'm reluctant to use the label "narcissist", but there's something "dark triad" chilling about this.
Redoubts 8y ago
Not to mention the project description and update is phrased incredibly weirdly. > So that the answer to these questions is meaningful, one must first have an elementary grasp of the manner in which microcomputer software in general, and HERMES Mail in specific, is structured. The current fashion in computer science is for all complex programs to be modular; software for Microsoft Windows follows this trend in that functions (such as mail retrieval or message composition) are grouped into so-called "DLL's" or dynamic link libraries, as well as the main executable containing the interface that talks to the user. Also, when writing code of any description, one may use either "native" functions included with the system or a "library" supplied by a third party for any fee or none.
wincent 8y ago
You're not the first to raise questions... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1313324524/hermes-eudoras-next-generation/posts/2297001 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1313324524/hermes-eudor... Check out the response: > It is my considered opinion that accusations like this, without positive evidence of attempted fraud, are scurrilous, ungentlemanly, dishonourable, morally suspect, and may very possibly constitute libel, given that they were made in a public forum.
- honeywhite 8y ago
  I don't appreciate being called a "fraudster" by someone who hope onto the Eudora mailing list, writes that one message, and hops off. Without participating otherwise.
__david__ 8y ago
And then asking for (what appears to be) free help from experienced old-school Mac devs. I realize he didn't raise that much money, but it still makes the whole thing feel a little more sleazy. "Hey I got all this money and spent on questionable stuff, does anyone want to help me finish it out gratis?"

jamespo 8y ago

Guy's bought himself an expensive phone to "communicate with the team" and the phone's not even available yet.

672093E2 8y ago
Hmmm... interesting use of language: ..ab origine ..de novo ..fait accompli ..ipso facto ..ergo Not sure if this is satire or genuine but he comes across as a complete idiot. $170/month in mobile data - how??? I'm guessing that is DOA
- Birch-san 8y ago
  looks like he's answering questions: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18854055 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18854055
scarejunba 8y ago
Phone is also only $570 on IndieGogo wtf. The last time I funded a software development effort was neovim and those guys had stuff out super fast. A Github repo, plans, the binary. It’s a successful project. That is some gold standard development, imho.
- honeywhite 8y ago
  Canadian and American dollars, remember. $570 US = $800ish Can. The Kickstarter is also in Canadian dollars.

maccard 8y ago

Jeez, that's awful. 2000 dollars on visual studio when community would suffice[0], 450 on incorporating and 900 bucks on his phone of choice. Couldn't he use email to communicate? What an awful use of donations for an open source project. He's also running another Kickstarter for the same project with no real goals... This screams cash grab to me! [0] Probably - but if you're big enough to require Enterprise you don't need to crowd fund 3k

wojtczyk 8y ago
Get vs enterprise for free via the biz spark program. Can’t support a guy with these kind of spending decisions with money or time.

throwaway9857 8y ago

This guy seems oblivious and grandiose, from what he is saying and how he says it. Another throwaway comment (dead) pointed out his unusually flowery, ostentatious vocabulary. I'm reluctant to use the label "narcissist", but there's something "dark triad" chilling about this.

Redoubts 8y ago

Not to mention the project description and update is phrased incredibly weirdly. > So that the answer to these questions is meaningful, one must first have an elementary grasp of the manner in which microcomputer software in general, and HERMES Mail in specific, is structured. The current fashion in computer science is for all complex programs to be modular; software for Microsoft Windows follows this trend in that functions (such as mail retrieval or message composition) are grouped into so-called "DLL's" or dynamic link libraries, as well as the main executable containing the interface that talks to the user. Also, when writing code of any description, one may use either "native" functions included with the system or a "library" supplied by a third party for any fee or none.

wincent 8y ago

You're not the first to raise questions... https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1313324524/hermes-eudoras-next-generation/posts/2297001 https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1313324524/hermes-eudor... Check out the response: > It is my considered opinion that accusations like this, without positive evidence of attempted fraud, are scurrilous, ungentlemanly, dishonourable, morally suspect, and may very possibly constitute libel, given that they were made in a public forum.

honeywhite 8y ago
I don't appreciate being called a "fraudster" by someone who hope onto the Eudora mailing list, writes that one message, and hops off. Without participating otherwise.

__david__ 8y ago

And then asking for (what appears to be) free help from experienced old-school Mac devs. I realize he didn't raise that much money, but it still makes the whole thing feel a little more sleazy. "Hey I got all this money and spent on questionable stuff, does anyone want to help me finish it out gratis?"