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XMPP: OMEMO, XEP-313, XEP-280, done. Cross-device e2e encrypted, synchronized messages. Local storage is not in-app encrypted though, but that needs to be taken

by pmlnr 8y ago

XMPP: OMEMO, XEP-313, XEP-280, done. Cross-device e2e encrypted, synchronized messages. Local storage is not in-app encrypted though, but that needs to be taken care of on the system level anyway in my opinion.

Erlich_Bachman 8y ago
What about PFS? Which apps would you recommend? Also with XMPP you almost have to specify which apps to use. Since it is as an open standard, just recommending the protocol means that someone could just pick one of the "bad" apps (old non-updated, or some which are actively against privacy) and the whole effort becomes pointless anyway.
- herewuare 8y ago
  For Android phones you need to get the app called Conversations, and for Linux Windows Mac desktops you need to get the app called Gajim, and just enable OMEMO encryption under plugins. Conversations for Android is definitely the best XMPP client out there right now, so just make all your family and friends use it. And everything will be transparently flawless.
lucb1e 8y ago
Where can I sign up? Serious question because I can't tell a few dozen friends and family to either run their own server, nor do I want to play customer support for all of them.
- pgeorgi 8y ago
  Conversations (the best Android client out there) proposes using its author's server for a fee. https://list.jabber.at https://list.jabber.at has more servers.
- throwaway72555 8y ago
  Also take a look at Quicksy [0]. It is done by the author of Conversations but allows phone number sign up, which simplifies things for non-tech people. [0] https://quicksy.im/ https://quicksy.im/
bscphil 8y ago
For those who recommend Matrix: could you maybe say what Matrix is supposed to provide over something like this? It sounds like everything I want in a messaging system, but as I understand it Matrix is supposed to be a kind of sequel to XMPP.

4 ms·

XMPP: OMEMO, XEP-313, XEP-280, done. Cross-device e2e encrypted, synchronized messages. Local storage is not in-app encrypted though, but that needs to be taken

by pmlnr 8y ago

Erlich_Bachman 8y ago
What about PFS? Which apps would you recommend? Also with XMPP you almost have to specify which apps to use. Since it is as an open standard, just recommending the protocol means that someone could just pick one of the "bad" apps (old non-updated, or some which are actively against privacy) and the whole effort becomes pointless anyway.
- herewuare 8y ago
  For Android phones you need to get the app called Conversations, and for Linux Windows Mac desktops you need to get the app called Gajim, and just enable OMEMO encryption under plugins. Conversations for Android is definitely the best XMPP client out there right now, so just make all your family and friends use it. And everything will be transparently flawless.
lucb1e 8y ago
Where can I sign up? Serious question because I can't tell a few dozen friends and family to either run their own server, nor do I want to play customer support for all of them.
- pgeorgi 8y ago
  Conversations (the best Android client out there) proposes using its author's server for a fee. https://list.jabber.at https://list.jabber.at has more servers.
- throwaway72555 8y ago
  Also take a look at Quicksy [0]. It is done by the author of Conversations but allows phone number sign up, which simplifies things for non-tech people. [0] https://quicksy.im/ https://quicksy.im/
bscphil 8y ago
For those who recommend Matrix: could you maybe say what Matrix is supposed to provide over something like this? It sounds like everything I want in a messaging system, but as I understand it Matrix is supposed to be a kind of sequel to XMPP.