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Beyond the whole foss aspect, there are good technical reasons too. For instance, blob won't work with wayland (at least right now AFAIK), and ubuntu was (is) d

Beyond the whole foss aspect, there are good technical reasons too. For instance, blob won't work with wayland (at least right now AFAIK), and ubuntu was (is) debating switching to wayland as default.

jandrese 8y ago
My impression was that the 17.10 Weyland stuff was kind of a mess so the switch is probably premature at this point.
- vetinari 8y ago
  Fedora is Wayland-by-default for several releases already.
  - loeg 8y ago
    Sort of. It falls back to X for drivers that don't support Wayland, which has included nvidia for a long time. (Maybe there is some progress there more recently.) And the proprietary nvidia driver is widely used.
    - jolux 8y ago
      Does it really? I had grotesque lag when installing Fedora on a System76 laptop with an Nvidia card and had to switch to X manually.
  - jandrese 8y ago
    I had a handful of laptops at work that were briefly on 17.10 (because 16.04 had a showstopping bug for them) and the graphics were a complete headache until I switched them to X. Luckily 18.04 reverted to X and made my life easier.
    - vetinari 8y ago
      I've never had problem with it; but then, my laptops have all Intel GPU and my only desktop with AMD GPU handles it nicely too. Chances are, that you are using modesetting X driver anyway (i.e. the KMS driver, the same driver/backed, that is used by Wayland).
  - pantalaimon 8y ago
    Fedora is a bleeding edge distribution whose sole purpose is to test out new features.
- pferde 8y ago
  Wait until they join up with Yutani.
int_19h 8y ago
If Nouveau isn't working all that well, then clearly a switch to a new graphics stack that would require it is waaay premature, given how prevalent NVIDIA graphics hardware is.
- ndnxhs 8y ago
  It does actually work fairly well for non gaming uses.
pantalaimon 8y ago
> blob won't work with wayland (at least right now AFAIK) AFAIK it works with Gnome's Wayland Implementation, but not with the one from KDE.

jandrese 8y ago

My impression was that the 17.10 Weyland stuff was kind of a mess so the switch is probably premature at this point.

vetinari 8y ago
Fedora is Wayland-by-default for several releases already.
- loeg 8y ago
  Sort of. It falls back to X for drivers that don't support Wayland, which has included nvidia for a long time. (Maybe there is some progress there more recently.) And the proprietary nvidia driver is widely used.
  - jolux 8y ago
    Does it really? I had grotesque lag when installing Fedora on a System76 laptop with an Nvidia card and had to switch to X manually.
- jandrese 8y ago
  I had a handful of laptops at work that were briefly on 17.10 (because 16.04 had a showstopping bug for them) and the graphics were a complete headache until I switched them to X. Luckily 18.04 reverted to X and made my life easier.
  - vetinari 8y ago
    I've never had problem with it; but then, my laptops have all Intel GPU and my only desktop with AMD GPU handles it nicely too. Chances are, that you are using modesetting X driver anyway (i.e. the KMS driver, the same driver/backed, that is used by Wayland).
- pantalaimon 8y ago
  Fedora is a bleeding edge distribution whose sole purpose is to test out new features.
pferde 8y ago
Wait until they join up with Yutani.

int_19h 8y ago

If Nouveau isn't working all that well, then clearly a switch to a new graphics stack that would require it is waaay premature, given how prevalent NVIDIA graphics hardware is.

ndnxhs 8y ago
It does actually work fairly well for non gaming uses.

pantalaimon 8y ago

> blob won't work with wayland (at least right now AFAIK) AFAIK it works with Gnome's Wayland Implementation, but not with the one from KDE.