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Nvidia also does an excellent job of supporting linux. It's just not open source.

bubblethink 8y ago
Excellent is a stretch. It works for things they support. Look at optimus and wayland for instance. Also, they restrict nouveau from working by signing blobs and enforcing checks. And this is years after Linus flipping the bird and other repeated requests.
- computerex 8y ago
  Optimus was the single most pain in the ass thing I have ever experienced in linux. Never again, am I going to run linux on an optimus machine with Bumblebee.
  - StavrosK 8y ago
    Never again am I going to buy an Optimus machine. EDIT: Wait, there's an open source thing? Is Bumblebee any good? Optimus is such a pain in my ass that it's making me want to smash this laptop.
    - okl 8y ago
      They became famous on the net with this bug: https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/issues/123 https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/issue...
zamadatix 8y ago
Well, there is that whole GBM/EGLstreams thing with Wayland. Also their supported architectures list is basically x86 these days.
emersion 8y ago
Their driver is really behind in terms of supporting newer libdrm features. It's also not well integrated in the ecosystem. They basically don't talk to the other Linux graphics devs.
StavrosK 8y ago
I don't know, I upgraded to 18.10 and my XPS's brightness control doesn't work. The Prime switchy thing can't change cards without a reboot, and if the screen goes to sleep between switching cards and rebooting, it never comes up again. Actually, with 18.10, it never comes up again anyway. I have a whole host of issues with nVidia cards, my next card is going to be AMD.
- mikewhy 8y ago
  18.10 isn't even supported by Dell.
  - StavrosK 8y ago
    Awesome, a laptop with one-year OS support...
    - bsznjyewgd 8y ago
      It's not even an LTS release.
    - zamadatix 8y ago
      Dell doesn't support non LTS (long term support) releases. The next LTS release of Ubuntu is 20.04.
      - StavrosK 8y ago
        What does this mean? What sort of support did I get from Dell for 18.04? I had to download and install everything myself.
  - bubblethink 8y ago
    That's not the point. The switching issue at least is present on 18.04 as well. Basically, ubuntu changed the mechnanism from bbswitch in 16.04 to a different one in 18.04. The 18.04 one is buggy and inferior at the moment.

Excellent is a stretch. It works for things they support. Look at optimus and wayland for instance. Also, they restrict nouveau from working by signing blobs and enforcing checks. And this is years after Linus flipping the bird and other repeated requests.

computerex 8y ago
Optimus was the single most pain in the ass thing I have ever experienced in linux. Never again, am I going to run linux on an optimus machine with Bumblebee.
- StavrosK 8y ago
  Never again am I going to buy an Optimus machine. EDIT: Wait, there's an open source thing? Is Bumblebee any good? Optimus is such a pain in my ass that it's making me want to smash this laptop.
  - okl 8y ago
    They became famous on the net with this bug: https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/issues/123 https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/issue...

zamadatix 8y ago

Well, there is that whole GBM/EGLstreams thing with Wayland. Also their supported architectures list is basically x86 these days.

emersion 8y ago

Their driver is really behind in terms of supporting newer libdrm features. It's also not well integrated in the ecosystem. They basically don't talk to the other Linux graphics devs.

StavrosK 8y ago

I don't know, I upgraded to 18.10 and my XPS's brightness control doesn't work. The Prime switchy thing can't change cards without a reboot, and if the screen goes to sleep between switching cards and rebooting, it never comes up again. Actually, with 18.10, it never comes up again anyway. I have a whole host of issues with nVidia cards, my next card is going to be AMD.

mikewhy 8y ago
18.10 isn't even supported by Dell.
- StavrosK 8y ago
  Awesome, a laptop with one-year OS support...
  - bsznjyewgd 8y ago
    It's not even an LTS release.
  - zamadatix 8y ago
    Dell doesn't support non LTS (long term support) releases. The next LTS release of Ubuntu is 20.04.
    - StavrosK 8y ago
      What does this mean? What sort of support did I get from Dell for 18.04? I had to download and install everything myself.
- bubblethink 8y ago
  That's not the point. The switching issue at least is present on 18.04 as well. Basically, ubuntu changed the mechnanism from bbswitch in 16.04 to a different one in 18.04. The 18.04 one is buggy and inferior at the moment.