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I'll take a stab at #1. I'd say he missed the "fish, poultry and eggs", "healthy fats/oils" and "whole grains" groups. He was eating from the "use sparingly",

I'll take a stab at #1. I'd say he missed the "fish, poultry and eggs", "healthy fats/oils" and "whole grains" groups. He was eating from the "use sparingly", "dairy" (from the shake), and "vegetables and fruits". Eggs are often in the types of snacks he was eating, so it's possible you could argue he was also eating from the "fish, poultry and eggs" group. I'm using the groups as defined in the Healthy Eating Pyramid: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/pyramid-full-story/index.html http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-...

niels_olson 16y ago
Upvote. I wish it was more obvious that I wasn't using food groups as a proper noun. Since he wasn't eating fruit, you can see the friction between the language of reality to the use of language in food politics. "Fruits and vegetables" are different. Compared to stems and leaves, fruits are high in sugar, low in fiber and complex carbs.
- DLWormwood 16y ago
  I’m going to have to plead some confusion or ignorance I here. I’m well aware that nutrition has become a political hot potato for the last few decades, but I’m trying figure out why you felt the need to bring it up in your response. What do you mean by “not food groups as a proper noun?"
  - niels_olson 16y ago
    Because the pyramid defines a group "fruits and vegetables". I could define any set of edible things I wanted in a small g group, but the pervasive inclination to think about "fruits and vegetables" inhibits my goal of getting people to think about them separately. Fruits are not the same as stems and leaves.
    - DLWormwood 16y ago
      I think I see your point; when I was a kid I saw charts that handled them separately. (I think it was during Reagan’s or Clinton’s term that they got kerfuddled together.) But it doesn’t help matters that the terms “fruit” and “vegetable” are problematic, at least in English. What a layman thinks is a fruit can be drastically different than what a biologist or lawyer thinks is one, thanks to a real mess of culinary and legal tradition. (The tomato is the textbook example.)
esponapule 16y ago
you are correct, most junk food does contian some type of animal part be it eggs, dairy or fom animal-derived protein (i.e. l-cycten or gelatin)
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niels_olson 16y ago

Upvote. I wish it was more obvious that I wasn't using food groups as a proper noun. Since he wasn't eating fruit, you can see the friction between the language of reality to the use of language in food politics. "Fruits and vegetables" are different. Compared to stems and leaves, fruits are high in sugar, low in fiber and complex carbs.

DLWormwood 16y ago
I’m going to have to plead some confusion or ignorance I here. I’m well aware that nutrition has become a political hot potato for the last few decades, but I’m trying figure out why you felt the need to bring it up in your response. What do you mean by “not food groups as a proper noun?"
- niels_olson 16y ago
  Because the pyramid defines a group "fruits and vegetables". I could define any set of edible things I wanted in a small g group, but the pervasive inclination to think about "fruits and vegetables" inhibits my goal of getting people to think about them separately. Fruits are not the same as stems and leaves.
  - DLWormwood 16y ago
    I think I see your point; when I was a kid I saw charts that handled them separately. (I think it was during Reagan’s or Clinton’s term that they got kerfuddled together.) But it doesn’t help matters that the terms “fruit” and “vegetable” are problematic, at least in English. What a layman thinks is a fruit can be drastically different than what a biologist or lawyer thinks is one, thanks to a real mess of culinary and legal tradition. (The tomato is the textbook example.)

esponapule 16y ago

you are correct, most junk food does contian some type of animal part be it eggs, dairy or fom animal-derived protein (i.e. l-cycten or gelatin)

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