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Your decision to show ads to your users this last week without their consent was the last straw for me. And believe me, I've stood A LOT from you. My relationsh

by vnw 8y ago

Your decision to show ads to your users this last week without their consent was the last straw for me. And believe me, I've stood A LOT from you. My relationship with you has been practically abusive. Farewell Mozilla, it's been real.

skyfaller 8y ago
Where on earth are you going? Chrome? There are no other independent browser engines left besides Firefox, web browsers are a duopoly now and if you think Google is better on data collection and ads than Mozilla, I have a bridge to sell you.
- throwaway2048 8y ago
  "a least they aren't as bad as Google and Chrome" is far from glowing praise.
- K2L8M11N2 8y ago
  There's ungoogled-chromium, with every single telemetry code path patched out.
- jkollross 8y ago
  Chrome isn't the only other option. There are tons of browsers that are more respectful of user privacy than Firefox: - Firefox (but fixed with settings that are hidden from the user for some reason) - IceCat, Waterfox, Pale Moon, etc. - Ungoogled Chromium, Iridium, Qutebrowser, etc. Mozilla's actions (Cliqz spyware integration, ads in the browser, Google analytics in the browser, locked enabled telemetry, etc.) show that their "commitment" to user privacy is just marketing.
  - ForHackernews 8y ago
    > tons of browsers So...some minor derivatives of Firefox, plus some hacked-on versions of Chromium. What are you going to do if Firefox goes away?
- phendrenad2 8y ago
  This feels like a problem the free market would have solved. Pay $x00/year or so, get a browser that doesn't track you or serve ads, and doesn't remove features that the userbase liked. But that hasn't happened, so I'm clearly vastly misunderstanding things here.
- pessimizer 8y ago
  You could literally be Firefox talking. You don't want us to do this? But when we do, where are you going to go? The other guy is worse. edit: I feel like I should footnote this with the observation that Firefox is at the lowest marketshare it's ever been, and continues to shed users. It currently only exists so to be used as a defense in future antitrust actions against Google.
- wutbrodo 8y ago
  I don't recall Chrome putting ads in the browser, so it does seem like, comparing apples-to-apples, Chrome has been better than Firefox on ads (given the Mr Robot ad and this recent booking.com ad on the new tab page). That being said, as much as I've been unimpressed with Mozilla's decisions over the last half-decade, I don't really see the issue with putting an ad on the new tab page, given that they claim it wasn't targeted and didn't use any user data.
- dcbadacd 8y ago
  The very least I'm well aware of what it does and it's not hiding it and it doesn't eat my laptop's battery with anything WebGL or video-related (and also does both without any glitches).
oth001 8y ago
Do you have link to what you're referring to?
jks 8y ago
There was some kind of a TV show ad about a year ago, which people also didn't like. Mozilla promised to improve, but apparently it didn't last. (Source: https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/MozillaStillTrustProblems https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/MozillaStillTru... )

by vnw 8y ago

skyfaller 8y ago

Where on earth are you going? Chrome? There are no other independent browser engines left besides Firefox, web browsers are a duopoly now and if you think Google is better on data collection and ads than Mozilla, I have a bridge to sell you.

throwaway2048 8y ago
"a least they aren't as bad as Google and Chrome" is far from glowing praise.
K2L8M11N2 8y ago
There's ungoogled-chromium, with every single telemetry code path patched out.
jkollross 8y ago
Chrome isn't the only other option. There are tons of browsers that are more respectful of user privacy than Firefox: - Firefox (but fixed with settings that are hidden from the user for some reason) - IceCat, Waterfox, Pale Moon, etc. - Ungoogled Chromium, Iridium, Qutebrowser, etc. Mozilla's actions (Cliqz spyware integration, ads in the browser, Google analytics in the browser, locked enabled telemetry, etc.) show that their "commitment" to user privacy is just marketing.
- ForHackernews 8y ago
  > tons of browsers So...some minor derivatives of Firefox, plus some hacked-on versions of Chromium. What are you going to do if Firefox goes away?
phendrenad2 8y ago
This feels like a problem the free market would have solved. Pay $x00/year or so, get a browser that doesn't track you or serve ads, and doesn't remove features that the userbase liked. But that hasn't happened, so I'm clearly vastly misunderstanding things here.
pessimizer 8y ago
You could literally be Firefox talking. You don't want us to do this? But when we do, where are you going to go? The other guy is worse. edit: I feel like I should footnote this with the observation that Firefox is at the lowest marketshare it's ever been, and continues to shed users. It currently only exists so to be used as a defense in future antitrust actions against Google.
wutbrodo 8y ago
I don't recall Chrome putting ads in the browser, so it does seem like, comparing apples-to-apples, Chrome has been better than Firefox on ads (given the Mr Robot ad and this recent booking.com ad on the new tab page). That being said, as much as I've been unimpressed with Mozilla's decisions over the last half-decade, I don't really see the issue with putting an ad on the new tab page, given that they claim it wasn't targeted and didn't use any user data.
dcbadacd 8y ago
The very least I'm well aware of what it does and it's not hiding it and it doesn't eat my laptop's battery with anything WebGL or video-related (and also does both without any glitches).

oth001 8y ago

Do you have link to what you're referring to?

jks 8y ago

There was some kind of a TV show ad about a year ago, which people also didn't like. Mozilla promised to improve, but apparently it didn't last. (Source: https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/MozillaStillTrustProblems https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/web/MozillaStillTru... )