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> Do you just hate the idea of any built-in browser integration with proprietary services? Yes. I hate the idea of any built-in browser integration with prop

by knob 8y ago

> Do you just hate the idea of any built-in browser integration with proprietary services? Yes. I hate the idea of any built-in browser integration with proprietary services.

ForHackernews 8y ago
Do you feel the same way about including Google as the default search engine? If not, why not?
- rayuela 8y ago
  Switching to a different default search engine is trivial. Removing pocket not so much...
  - SamuelAdams 8y ago
    About:config Pocket.enabled Set to false Seems pretty simple to me.
    - GordonS 8y ago
      Trivial for your average HN user, but "normal" users can't be expected to go poking around in an undiscoverable settings feature that warns them about dragons.
- paulddraper 8y ago
  Exactly. I don't have a problem Google or Pocket defaults. But if I did, Google seems 100x the larger problem.
Animats 8y ago
Exactly. I stopped trusting Mozilla when Pocket went in. I just "upgraded" Firefox to make it shut up, and I spent 15 minutes checking the privacy options to see if they were sneaking anything in. I still don't see a way to totally remove "Sync". I don't want the browser talking to any site that's not absolutely necessary to display the page. Period.
- ForHackernews 8y ago
  > I don't want the browser talking to any site that's not absolutely necessary to display the page. Period. We've probably already lost that war, because almost all sites today include hundreds of kilobytes of extraneous javascript tracking cruft, and blocking it will frequently break the page display. At least Mozilla is trying to help on that front with their privacy tools and container tabs.
GordonS 8y ago
I actually love Pocket, finding it great for organising my many bookmarks - but at the same time, I don't want proprietary services built into Firefox. IMO, Pocket should be an extension, same as any other. Though I wouldn't even mind if the Firefox installer asked if I wanted to install this extension during installation, treating it as a kind of "Mozilla recommended" extension.

by knob 8y ago

> Do you just hate the idea of any built-in browser integration with proprietary services? Yes. I hate the idea of any built-in browser integration with proprietary services.

ForHackernews 8y ago

Do you feel the same way about including Google as the default search engine? If not, why not?

rayuela 8y ago
Switching to a different default search engine is trivial. Removing pocket not so much...
- SamuelAdams 8y ago
  About:config Pocket.enabled Set to false Seems pretty simple to me.
  - GordonS 8y ago
    Trivial for your average HN user, but "normal" users can't be expected to go poking around in an undiscoverable settings feature that warns them about dragons.
paulddraper 8y ago
Exactly. I don't have a problem Google or Pocket defaults. But if I did, Google seems 100x the larger problem.

Animats 8y ago

Exactly. I stopped trusting Mozilla when Pocket went in. I just "upgraded" Firefox to make it shut up, and I spent 15 minutes checking the privacy options to see if they were sneaking anything in. I still don't see a way to totally remove "Sync". I don't want the browser talking to any site that's not absolutely necessary to display the page. Period.

ForHackernews 8y ago
> I don't want the browser talking to any site that's not absolutely necessary to display the page. Period. We've probably already lost that war, because almost all sites today include hundreds of kilobytes of extraneous javascript tracking cruft, and blocking it will frequently break the page display. At least Mozilla is trying to help on that front with their privacy tools and container tabs.

GordonS 8y ago

I actually love Pocket, finding it great for organising my many bookmarks - but at the same time, I don't want proprietary services built into Firefox. IMO, Pocket should be an extension, same as any other. Though I wouldn't even mind if the Firefox installer asked if I wanted to install this extension during installation, treating it as a kind of "Mozilla recommended" extension.