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Since this comment has gone far afield of the original topic (cigarette butts as litter), I want to see you complain about the inconsiderateness of people weari

Since this comment has gone far afield of the original topic (cigarette butts as litter), I want to see you complain about the inconsiderateness of people wearing perfume and of people that smell of smoke after they sit around campfires.

darkpuma 8y ago
> "I want to see you complain about the inconsiderateness of people wearing perfume and of people that smell of smoke after they sit around campfires." People who wear perfume have the excuse of believing they were being considerate, their fault is ignorance not selfishness. No smoker can earnestly claim they made themselves smell like an ash tray because they believed other people would appreciate it. As for camp fires, if somebody fails to bath before coming into the office after spending the weekend camping, that is a very clear cut case of poor hygiene, which of course is very inconsiderate. Are you happy now? Do you think the reputation of smokers has been rehabilitated thanks to your digressions? That smokers are notorious for liter is a consequence of their notorious personality defect of being inconsiderate. They don't care about how their actions impact those around them. That's why they liter. That's why they picked up a habit that makes them smell like an ash tray.
- headstorm 8y ago
  You are acting as an apologist for every scent that you personally don't mind. You are the one who digressed away from pollution to odor. Let go of your hate, please. And please stop conflating odor with pollution, it is not becoming of you.
  - darkpuma 8y ago
    >You are acting as an apologist for every scent that you personally don't mind. On the contrary, I defended the moral character of people who wear perfume, not the stench of perfume, since they do not categorically possess the same moral defect as smokers. (And I didn't defend in any way people who smell like campfires. People who go camping should bath before presenting themselves in public, they have absolutely no excuse.) Did you even read my post or did you assume the contents of it? Which each passing year, as cigarette smoking becomes less and less popular, the portion of the population who hate for the stench of people who smoke will only rise. A majority of the public in first world nations agrees with me, and that's not going to diminish. Smokers are left with a choice, either they change or they weather the hate they rightfully get from the rest of us.
    - headstorm 8y ago
      "Moral defect"? Please, leave that tired language in the 19th century. I reject your appeal to popularity as well. I don't like tobacco smoke either, but I think you're judging a lot of people way more harshly than is healthy for public discourse.
    - horsawlarway 8y ago
      > weather the hate they rightfully get from the rest of us. Wow. You're a bit of a trite asshat, huh? I don't smoke (cigarettes at least...) but if you're capable of hating someone because they smell vaguely of smoke... I dislike you a lot. That no compromise "one of us or one of them" attitude is basically lowest common denominator thinking. Maybe try toning it down some. - Some random person

darkpuma 8y ago

> "I want to see you complain about the inconsiderateness of people wearing perfume and of people that smell of smoke after they sit around campfires." People who wear perfume have the excuse of believing they were being considerate, their fault is ignorance not selfishness. No smoker can earnestly claim they made themselves smell like an ash tray because they believed other people would appreciate it. As for camp fires, if somebody fails to bath before coming into the office after spending the weekend camping, that is a very clear cut case of poor hygiene, which of course is very inconsiderate. Are you happy now? Do you think the reputation of smokers has been rehabilitated thanks to your digressions? That smokers are notorious for liter is a consequence of their notorious personality defect of being inconsiderate. They don't care about how their actions impact those around them. That's why they liter. That's why they picked up a habit that makes them smell like an ash tray.

headstorm 8y ago
You are acting as an apologist for every scent that you personally don't mind. You are the one who digressed away from pollution to odor. Let go of your hate, please. And please stop conflating odor with pollution, it is not becoming of you.
- darkpuma 8y ago
  >You are acting as an apologist for every scent that you personally don't mind. On the contrary, I defended the moral character of people who wear perfume, not the stench of perfume, since they do not categorically possess the same moral defect as smokers. (And I didn't defend in any way people who smell like campfires. People who go camping should bath before presenting themselves in public, they have absolutely no excuse.) Did you even read my post or did you assume the contents of it? Which each passing year, as cigarette smoking becomes less and less popular, the portion of the population who hate for the stench of people who smoke will only rise. A majority of the public in first world nations agrees with me, and that's not going to diminish. Smokers are left with a choice, either they change or they weather the hate they rightfully get from the rest of us.
  - headstorm 8y ago
    "Moral defect"? Please, leave that tired language in the 19th century. I reject your appeal to popularity as well. I don't like tobacco smoke either, but I think you're judging a lot of people way more harshly than is healthy for public discourse.
  - horsawlarway 8y ago
    > weather the hate they rightfully get from the rest of us. Wow. You're a bit of a trite asshat, huh? I don't smoke (cigarettes at least...) but if you're capable of hating someone because they smell vaguely of smoke... I dislike you a lot. That no compromise "one of us or one of them" attitude is basically lowest common denominator thinking. Maybe try toning it down some. - Some random person