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> inconsiderate: thoughtlessly causing hurt or inconvenience to others. Smokers are inconsiderate because they thoughtlessly cause harm or inconvenience to oth

> inconsiderate: thoughtlessly causing hurt or inconvenience to others. Smokers are inconsiderate because they thoughtlessly cause harm or inconvenience to others by smelling offensive. They brush off the objections of all non-smokers and tell the rest of the world to fuck off because they selfishly prefer smoking to not causing olfactory offense.

baddox 8y ago
I assure you that not all non-smokers find the mere smell of a smoker’s clothes as offensive as you apparently do. There are lots of smells that I don’t like, particularly the smells of certain foods. I don’t call people who cook or eat those foods inconsiderate.
- darkpuma 8y ago
  The stench of a smoker is widely considered offensive. This is not some weird personal quirk on my part, and I'm certain you know that.
- woobar 8y ago
  Even smokers in other threads here complain how cigarette butts smell.
code_duck 8y ago
This is how I feel about almost all scented products - shampoo, air freshener, cologne, incense. However, many people think they are being polite by spreading these offensive chemicals on themselves with the intention of making other people inhale them. It’s very difficult to explain to people that their scents are making you ill and forcing you to leave the room, rinse your sinuses or stay 5+ feet away from them. Mercifully some workplaces have no-fragrance policies. Elsewhere, my health-driven preferences get absolutely no attention or respect. People get offended and embarrassed especially since they think they are doing this to make themselves more presentable. It is far better to not say anything. Oddly, cigarette smells and body odor do not bother me at all. So, given that attitude, hope you don’t use dryer sheets.
- headstorm 8y ago
  I couldn't agree more!
headstorm 8y ago
Since this comment has gone far afield of the original topic (cigarette butts as litter), I want to see you complain about the inconsiderateness of people wearing perfume and of people that smell of smoke after they sit around campfires.
- darkpuma 8y ago
  > "I want to see you complain about the inconsiderateness of people wearing perfume and of people that smell of smoke after they sit around campfires." People who wear perfume have the excuse of believing they were being considerate, their fault is ignorance not selfishness. No smoker can earnestly claim they made themselves smell like an ash tray because they believed other people would appreciate it. As for camp fires, if somebody fails to bath before coming into the office after spending the weekend camping, that is a very clear cut case of poor hygiene, which of course is very inconsiderate. Are you happy now? Do you think the reputation of smokers has been rehabilitated thanks to your digressions? That smokers are notorious for liter is a consequence of their notorious personality defect of being inconsiderate. They don't care about how their actions impact those around them. That's why they liter. That's why they picked up a habit that makes them smell like an ash tray.
  - headstorm 8y ago
    You are acting as an apologist for every scent that you personally don't mind. You are the one who digressed away from pollution to odor. Let go of your hate, please. And please stop conflating odor with pollution, it is not becoming of you.
    - darkpuma 8y ago
      >You are acting as an apologist for every scent that you personally don't mind. On the contrary, I defended the moral character of people who wear perfume, not the stench of perfume, since they do not categorically possess the same moral defect as smokers. (And I didn't defend in any way people who smell like campfires. People who go camping should bath before presenting themselves in public, they have absolutely no excuse.) Did you even read my post or did you assume the contents of it? Which each passing year, as cigarette smoking becomes less and less popular, the portion of the population who hate for the stench of people who smoke will only rise. A majority of the public in first world nations agrees with me, and that's not going to diminish. Smokers are left with a choice, either they change or they weather the hate they rightfully get from the rest of us.

baddox 8y ago

I assure you that not all non-smokers find the mere smell of a smoker’s clothes as offensive as you apparently do. There are lots of smells that I don’t like, particularly the smells of certain foods. I don’t call people who cook or eat those foods inconsiderate.

darkpuma 8y ago
The stench of a smoker is widely considered offensive. This is not some weird personal quirk on my part, and I'm certain you know that.
woobar 8y ago
Even smokers in other threads here complain how cigarette butts smell.

code_duck 8y ago

This is how I feel about almost all scented products - shampoo, air freshener, cologne, incense. However, many people think they are being polite by spreading these offensive chemicals on themselves with the intention of making other people inhale them. It’s very difficult to explain to people that their scents are making you ill and forcing you to leave the room, rinse your sinuses or stay 5+ feet away from them. Mercifully some workplaces have no-fragrance policies. Elsewhere, my health-driven preferences get absolutely no attention or respect. People get offended and embarrassed especially since they think they are doing this to make themselves more presentable. It is far better to not say anything. Oddly, cigarette smells and body odor do not bother me at all. So, given that attitude, hope you don’t use dryer sheets.

headstorm 8y ago
I couldn't agree more!

headstorm 8y ago

Since this comment has gone far afield of the original topic (cigarette butts as litter), I want to see you complain about the inconsiderateness of people wearing perfume and of people that smell of smoke after they sit around campfires.

darkpuma 8y ago
> "I want to see you complain about the inconsiderateness of people wearing perfume and of people that smell of smoke after they sit around campfires." People who wear perfume have the excuse of believing they were being considerate, their fault is ignorance not selfishness. No smoker can earnestly claim they made themselves smell like an ash tray because they believed other people would appreciate it. As for camp fires, if somebody fails to bath before coming into the office after spending the weekend camping, that is a very clear cut case of poor hygiene, which of course is very inconsiderate. Are you happy now? Do you think the reputation of smokers has been rehabilitated thanks to your digressions? That smokers are notorious for liter is a consequence of their notorious personality defect of being inconsiderate. They don't care about how their actions impact those around them. That's why they liter. That's why they picked up a habit that makes them smell like an ash tray.
- headstorm 8y ago
  You are acting as an apologist for every scent that you personally don't mind. You are the one who digressed away from pollution to odor. Let go of your hate, please. And please stop conflating odor with pollution, it is not becoming of you.
  - darkpuma 8y ago
    >You are acting as an apologist for every scent that you personally don't mind. On the contrary, I defended the moral character of people who wear perfume, not the stench of perfume, since they do not categorically possess the same moral defect as smokers. (And I didn't defend in any way people who smell like campfires. People who go camping should bath before presenting themselves in public, they have absolutely no excuse.) Did you even read my post or did you assume the contents of it? Which each passing year, as cigarette smoking becomes less and less popular, the portion of the population who hate for the stench of people who smoke will only rise. A majority of the public in first world nations agrees with me, and that's not going to diminish. Smokers are left with a choice, either they change or they weather the hate they rightfully get from the rest of us.