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I just bought this book. They guy has a very different approach to health and vegetables. https://www.amazon.com/Plant-Paradox-Dangers-Healthy-Disease/dp/00624

I just bought this book. They guy has a very different approach to health and vegetables. https://www.amazon.com/Plant-Paradox-Dangers-Healthy-Disease/dp/006242713X https://www.amazon.com/Plant-Paradox-Dangers-Healthy-Disease... I am not saying that I am buying his ideas yet, but I find his ideas interesting. I nearly died of gluten intolerance (I had a super rare from that was hard to identify). No, I am not exaggerating. Hence I am interested in foods. I am also a little bit skeptical about wheat in general. I think it may be closely linked to weight gain and may be possibly addictive: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6099562 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6099562

cageface 8y ago
Plant Paradox is bad science. Don’t risk your health on that quackery. https://medium.com/@Kahn642/the-plant-paradox-and-the-oxygen-paradox-dont-hold-your-breath-for-health-14c146e0c414 https://medium.com/@Kahn642/the-plant-paradox-and-the-oxygen... The healthiest diets on the planet consist mostly of plants. Even common sense exposes the ridiculousness of his claims.
- jayalpha 8y ago
  If some plants, besides drugs, may have the potential to be addictive then I don't think it is absurd to think that some plants don't want to be eaten and produce substances that are not necessarily good for you. "The healthiest diets on the planet consist mostly of plants. " Historically we ate meat. Lots of it. If I remember right, based on tooth isotopes analysis the Neanderthals for example ate hardly anything but meat. The eating of plants is a relatively new phenomenon, starting with the human civilization. Based on genetic evolution this are not really long terms.
  - cageface 8y ago
    Our nearest relatives, the primates, eat little to no meat and have very similar physiology to us. We seem to be a little bit better adapted to eat meat if necessary but our bodies are still optimized for extracting nutrients from plants. https://www.peta.org/living/food/really-natural-truth-humans-eating-meat/ https://www.peta.org/living/food/really-natural-truth-humans...
    - jayalpha 8y ago
      As much as I love animals. Do you really want me to take Peta for a credible source?
      - cageface 8y ago
        That was just the quickest reference I had to hand. Here's another: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancest... We don't have the physiology of a carnivore at all. We look a lot more like herbivores that may have made some small adaptations to include some meat in our diets if necessary.
        pvaldes 8y ago
        Is an error to think that true herbivorism is a "primitive" trait. They are very evolved in fact.
- jayalpha 8y ago
  Based on your link: "Gluten intolerance is uncommon (fewer than one in a hundred people) but very important for those who have celiac disease.” This statement is vague. First, it may be _much_ more common than 1 in 100 in white people. Fewer than 1 in 100 may be true if taken the world population into account. Wheat allergy, Gluten intolerance and celiac disease are actually considered by some to be two different things. See also: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4406911/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4406911/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-celiac_gluten_sensitivity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-celiac_gluten_sensitivity Wheat caused DH in me but I am not a celiac. The guy in the blog posts reminds me of that when the only thing you have is a hammer then everything looks like a nail.

cageface 8y ago

Plant Paradox is bad science. Don’t risk your health on that quackery. https://medium.com/@Kahn642/the-plant-paradox-and-the-oxygen-paradox-dont-hold-your-breath-for-health-14c146e0c414 https://medium.com/@Kahn642/the-plant-paradox-and-the-oxygen... The healthiest diets on the planet consist mostly of plants. Even common sense exposes the ridiculousness of his claims.

jayalpha 8y ago
If some plants, besides drugs, may have the potential to be addictive then I don't think it is absurd to think that some plants don't want to be eaten and produce substances that are not necessarily good for you. "The healthiest diets on the planet consist mostly of plants. " Historically we ate meat. Lots of it. If I remember right, based on tooth isotopes analysis the Neanderthals for example ate hardly anything but meat. The eating of plants is a relatively new phenomenon, starting with the human civilization. Based on genetic evolution this are not really long terms.
- cageface 8y ago
  Our nearest relatives, the primates, eat little to no meat and have very similar physiology to us. We seem to be a little bit better adapted to eat meat if necessary but our bodies are still optimized for extracting nutrients from plants. https://www.peta.org/living/food/really-natural-truth-humans-eating-meat/ https://www.peta.org/living/food/really-natural-truth-humans...
  - jayalpha 8y ago
    As much as I love animals. Do you really want me to take Peta for a credible source?
    - cageface 8y ago
      That was just the quickest reference I had to hand. Here's another: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancest... We don't have the physiology of a carnivore at all. We look a lot more like herbivores that may have made some small adaptations to include some meat in our diets if necessary.
      - pvaldes 8y ago
        Is an error to think that true herbivorism is a "primitive" trait. They are very evolved in fact.
jayalpha 8y ago
Based on your link: "Gluten intolerance is uncommon (fewer than one in a hundred people) but very important for those who have celiac disease.” This statement is vague. First, it may be _much_ more common than 1 in 100 in white people. Fewer than 1 in 100 may be true if taken the world population into account. Wheat allergy, Gluten intolerance and celiac disease are actually considered by some to be two different things. See also: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4406911/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4406911/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-celiac_gluten_sensitivity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-celiac_gluten_sensitivity Wheat caused DH in me but I am not a celiac. The guy in the blog posts reminds me of that when the only thing you have is a hammer then everything looks like a nail.