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There's no touchpad, and the iPad is still very different from the Mac in ways that are more significant than your list of details. For example, yes, there's a
by bunnycorn 8y ago
There's no touchpad, and the iPad is still very different from the Mac in ways that are more significant than your list of details.
For example, yes, there's a finder, but the places where you put files are 100% abstract, can be a hard drive, can be a SFTP, can be a cloud service that when offline, saves to the local storage and then uploads, can be a lazy extracting zip file, etc.
The most significant way that iOS differs from macOS (or Windows 10 or whatever) is that in iOS every action is accounted for and proper permission is enforced.
- happybuy 8y ago> There's no touchpad Yet... with many of the Apple technorati asking for one and saying it's a necessary next step. > in iOS every action is accounted for and proper permission is enforced Yes, so this is the Mac with a more restrictive security model as referenced in the first comment. Apple is moving the macOS towards this with the Sandbox and how app extensions are structured.
- oneeyedpigeon 8y ago> Yes, so this is the Mac with a more restrictive security model Maybe this is exactly why people want the changes to the iPad. They want a more powerful iPad rather than a less powerful Mac.
- coldtea 8y ago>Yet... with many of the Apple technorati asking for one and saying it's a necessary next step. Never read any "Apple technorati", much alone "many", asking for one.
- exergy 8y agoAll the iPad reviews on youtube, Marques, Dave2D, the Verge...they were all crying out for a chance to fully exploit the blindingly fast A12 chip with software to match. Specifically multiple displays and mouse support.
- coldtea 8y agoSo, no touchpad mentioned.
- exergy 8y agoAh, sorry, did you mean a Macbook with touch capabilities? In which case Linus has shouted himself hoarse begging for MacOS to adopt touchscreens. And I agree with him. I own a Surface. Having a touchscreen is one of those things that, for some at least, becomes a must have. For me it helps it walk the line between productivity machine and Youtube-while-cooking-dinner tablet.
- coldtea 8y agoLinus (for other readers: not Torvalds) is a random YouTuber, not an "Apple technoratti", which was the original claim -- that would be someone like Gruber, Jason Snell, the guys at The Loop, 9to5 Mac, Apple Insider, and so on). Original claim: "There's no touchpad Yet... with many of the Apple technorati asking for one and saying it's a necessary next step" Have actual "apple technoratti" asked for a touchpad? I never read one do so. Have they asked for touchscreens? Some did, some are against. In any case, I don't exactly see the reasoning. iPad is criticized because it doesn't have mouse support, and the Mac is criticized because it doesn't have touch support. As if a hybrid model wont have all the problems the Surface has -- (touch not that useful when using a keyboard, and mouse-based apps not that useful with touch) --and presumably the kind of lackluster sales the Surface has compared to the iPad.
- shaklee3 8y agoI don't know who those people are, so I googled. It does look like Gruber proposed a track pad: https://daringfireball.net/2017/05/ipad_trackpad https://daringfireball.net/2017/05/ipad_trackpad
- coldtea 8y agoNice find, hadn't seen that. Note that while he does propose one, he does it contrary to the spirit discussed here (of getting desktop OS X parity), even adding: "Even if users expect a mouse cursor when they first see the trackpad, they’ll adjust quickly when they realize it isn’t there. If they wanted a MacBook they’d be using a MacBook. By definition anyone using an iPad is not expecting it to act like a Mac."
- bunnycorn 8y ago> Yet... with many of the Apple technorati asking for one and saying it's a necessary next step. No, what I see, is people that are always coming with excuses to not buy an iPad. "Because it can only run one application at once" -> Apple implements that feature -> "it needs a real file manager" -> Apple implements that feature, and they will come up with more excuses of "why the iPad isn't a MacBook Air".
- ubercow13 8y ago>can be a hard drive, can be a SFTP, can be a cloud service that when offline, saves to the local storage and then uploads, can be a lazy extracting zip file, etc. Just like you might have using various fuse filesystems on a laptop
- steve_taylor 8y ago> There's no touchpad 3D touch (or two-finger touch on non-3D touch devices) on the keyboard turns it into a trackpad of sorts, allowing you to move the cursor freely around the focused input.
- bunnycorn 8y agoIs it a touchpad? No.