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Blame republicans. This is all by their design. Every other country has figured this out and the conservatives in those countries mostly support universal healt

Blame republicans. This is all by their design. Every other country has figured this out and the conservatives in those countries mostly support universal healthcare. America needs to vote out republicans for a generation and get America caught up to the rest of the developed world.

pohl 8y ago
This shouldn’t have been downvoted. It’s an accurate assessment.
oh_sigh 8y ago
Just a little life pro-tip: Even if you view 'the other side' as horrible murderers for profit, you should tone down your viewpoint when talking publicly because you will not convince anyone of your viewpoint by saying these people are horrible murderers for profit.
- tehduder9 8y ago
  reality stings
  - oh_sigh 8y ago
    Sure, but my advice was only on how to better persuade people, not how to better bash the truth into their skulls.
- deleted 8y ago
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GeekyBear 8y ago
This ignores the Clinton wing of the party, which votes with the Republicans on these sorts of issues that impact the pockets of the large political donors. >BERNIE SANDERS INTRODUCED a very simple symbolic amendment Wednesday night, urging the federal government to allow Americans to purchase pharmaceutical drugs from Canada, where they are considerably cheaper. Such unrestricted drug importation is currently prohibited by law. The Senate voted down the amendment 52-46, with two senators not voting. Unusually, the vote was not purely along party lines: 13 Republicans joined Sanders and a majority of Democrats in supporting the amendment, while 13 Democrats and a majority of Republicans opposed it. https://theintercept.com/2017/01/12/cory-booker-joins-senate-republicans-to-kill-measure-to-import-cheaper-medicine-from-canada/ https://theintercept.com/2017/01/12/cory-booker-joins-senate...
thucydidesofusa 8y ago
Not a single republican was responsible for foisting the ACA on America, the ACA is big reason why insulin is so expensive.
masonic 8y ago
Obamacare rules are still in full effect in MN.
beatgammit 8y ago
No, blame IP law. Patents were intended to increase innovation and competition, but lobbyists have been able to extend IP protections to make a killing. Few candidates from either major party seriously promote patent reform. We could socialize the cost of medication, but that doesn't solve the underlying problem of high pharmaceutical costs. I suppose you could argue that government would force prices down, but we got into this position from lobbyists, so why would government all of a sudden stop listening to lobbyists once they have captive insurance customers? I think the best approach is to table universal healthcare for now (Republicans won't budge and Democrats have utterly failed) and focus on fixing patents and other things that result in high healthcare prices. Once the underlying problems have been resolved, we can revisit universal healthcare if it's still important. I'd much rather see us go the UBI route where people choose their own benefits than having government try to decide what minimum benefits everyone needs.

pohl 8y ago

This shouldn’t have been downvoted. It’s an accurate assessment.

oh_sigh 8y ago

Just a little life pro-tip: Even if you view 'the other side' as horrible murderers for profit, you should tone down your viewpoint when talking publicly because you will not convince anyone of your viewpoint by saying these people are horrible murderers for profit.

tehduder9 8y ago
reality stings
- oh_sigh 8y ago
  Sure, but my advice was only on how to better persuade people, not how to better bash the truth into their skulls.
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GeekyBear 8y ago

This ignores the Clinton wing of the party, which votes with the Republicans on these sorts of issues that impact the pockets of the large political donors. >BERNIE SANDERS INTRODUCED a very simple symbolic amendment Wednesday night, urging the federal government to allow Americans to purchase pharmaceutical drugs from Canada, where they are considerably cheaper. Such unrestricted drug importation is currently prohibited by law. The Senate voted down the amendment 52-46, with two senators not voting. Unusually, the vote was not purely along party lines: 13 Republicans joined Sanders and a majority of Democrats in supporting the amendment, while 13 Democrats and a majority of Republicans opposed it. https://theintercept.com/2017/01/12/cory-booker-joins-senate-republicans-to-kill-measure-to-import-cheaper-medicine-from-canada/ https://theintercept.com/2017/01/12/cory-booker-joins-senate...

thucydidesofusa 8y ago

Not a single republican was responsible for foisting the ACA on America, the ACA is big reason why insulin is so expensive.

masonic 8y ago

Obamacare rules are still in full effect in MN.

beatgammit 8y ago

No, blame IP law. Patents were intended to increase innovation and competition, but lobbyists have been able to extend IP protections to make a killing. Few candidates from either major party seriously promote patent reform. We could socialize the cost of medication, but that doesn't solve the underlying problem of high pharmaceutical costs. I suppose you could argue that government would force prices down, but we got into this position from lobbyists, so why would government all of a sudden stop listening to lobbyists once they have captive insurance customers? I think the best approach is to table universal healthcare for now (Republicans won't budge and Democrats have utterly failed) and focus on fixing patents and other things that result in high healthcare prices. Once the underlying problems have been resolved, we can revisit universal healthcare if it's still important. I'd much rather see us go the UBI route where people choose their own benefits than having government try to decide what minimum benefits everyone needs.