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> That's hardly a challenging problem that requires a fat client. That's irrelevant. It doesn't matter that making a fat client for HN isn't necessary; that's

> That's hardly a challenging problem that requires a fat client. That's irrelevant. It doesn't matter that making a fat client for HN isn't necessary; that's completely beside the point. You're looking for reasons to ignore the stated premise of an analogy rather than accepting that the premise would be true. It's like this. Say you were beginning to explain how network services work with an anecdote: "Say you need to go to the market to get a carton of milk." Suddenly your listener stops you and says, "But I don't like milk." If your response to the above paragraph is, "But I don't know how network services work," then, congratulations, you can look forward to an exciting career in either comedy or politics, depending on whether or not you were serious.

geezerjay 8y ago
> That's irrelevant. It doesn't matter that making a fat client for HN isn't necessary; that's completely beside the point. If that's your take then you've completely missed the whole point. The functionalities made available to mobile applications are the reason why they exist. Developers don't work on mobile applications for the sake of working on mobile applications. They are paid to develop clients that take advantage of the features made available through a specific type of platform. Otherwise their customers wouldn't be spending their cash looking for specialized technical solutions. > You're looking for reasons to ignore the stated premise of an analogy rather than accepting that the premise would be true. The premise is patently false, and you're just complaining that others noticed the premise is false. > It's like this. Say you were beginning to explain how network services work with an anecdote: "Say you need to go to the market to get a carton of milk." Suddenly your listener stops you and says, "But I don't like milk." No, it's like you've missed the whole point along with all the reasons why your network service does not work, and instead of acknowledging all the holes in your reasoning you've decided to complain that someone found flaws.
- rjsw 8y ago
  I would suggest that quite a few people write mobile applications because their managers tell them to do it. This is totally independent of whether the use case requires a mobile application.
- zrobotics 8y ago
  Ok, jumping in here. So yes, HN doesn't 'need' a full app, but the functionality difference between this site and Reddit isn't that great. So why, pray tell, does Reddit nag me every time I visit on mobile? It certainly isn't that the app provides functionality that isn't avaliable through the browser, but somebody decided that it was worth spending development time and nagging users over. So yes, there are things that can't be implemented through the browser and require an app, but it's incorrect to state that nobody develops an app unless they absolutely need to.
dang 8y ago
Can you please not post flamewar-style comments to HN, regardless of how wrong or provocative you find another comment? We're trying for better than this here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

geezerjay 8y ago

> That's irrelevant. It doesn't matter that making a fat client for HN isn't necessary; that's completely beside the point. If that's your take then you've completely missed the whole point. The functionalities made available to mobile applications are the reason why they exist. Developers don't work on mobile applications for the sake of working on mobile applications. They are paid to develop clients that take advantage of the features made available through a specific type of platform. Otherwise their customers wouldn't be spending their cash looking for specialized technical solutions. > You're looking for reasons to ignore the stated premise of an analogy rather than accepting that the premise would be true. The premise is patently false, and you're just complaining that others noticed the premise is false. > It's like this. Say you were beginning to explain how network services work with an anecdote: "Say you need to go to the market to get a carton of milk." Suddenly your listener stops you and says, "But I don't like milk." No, it's like you've missed the whole point along with all the reasons why your network service does not work, and instead of acknowledging all the holes in your reasoning you've decided to complain that someone found flaws.

rjsw 8y ago
I would suggest that quite a few people write mobile applications because their managers tell them to do it. This is totally independent of whether the use case requires a mobile application.
zrobotics 8y ago
Ok, jumping in here. So yes, HN doesn't 'need' a full app, but the functionality difference between this site and Reddit isn't that great. So why, pray tell, does Reddit nag me every time I visit on mobile? It certainly isn't that the app provides functionality that isn't avaliable through the browser, but somebody decided that it was worth spending development time and nagging users over. So yes, there are things that can't be implemented through the browser and require an app, but it's incorrect to state that nobody develops an app unless they absolutely need to.

dang 8y ago

Can you please not post flamewar-style comments to HN, regardless of how wrong or provocative you find another comment? We're trying for better than this here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html