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You can't be serious. Just because people are willing to pay money for it doesn't mean it's worth your time. There's nothing wrong with making money on the side

by andreyf 16y ago

You can't be serious. Just because people are willing to pay money for it doesn't mean it's worth your time. There's nothing wrong with making money on the side with a couple of apps like this, but just as AIDS or cancer research is more "useful" than penis pills or breast enhancement surgery regardless of profitability, there are many ways for mobile developers to "push the state of the art" without making more fake cracked screen apps.

steveklabnik 16y ago
> Just because people are willing to pay money for it doesn't mean it's worth your time. By definition, if someone is willing to pay money for something, it's worth _their_ time, which is the whole point of making products. We preach "Making something that a customer finds valuable. MVP and iterate. Get lots of feedback to build something the customer wants." So kreci builds something people want. > ust as AIDS or cancer research is more "useful" than penis pills or breast enhancement surgery regardless of profitability This is where the main discrepancy comes in. You guys are talking about two different things: 'value' within a capitalist framework and 'nobility' within your particular moral one. Neither one is necessarily 'better', but that's the core difference.
- Yzupnick 16y ago
  > This is where the main discrepancy comes in. You guys are talking about two different things: 'value' within a capitalist framework and 'nobility' within your particular moral one. Neither one is necessarily 'better', but that's the core difference. I think this is something that is confused all the time, even by people who realize the distinction. It is something I (and I suspect others) find hard to keep track of without actively thinking about it.
  - steveklabnik 16y ago
    Absolutely. I think it's a common trap that we all fall into; I know that I do, for sure. We assume that something doesn't have any value unless it solves a hard problem. In reality, there's a ton of low-hanging fruit out there just waiting to be exploited. As the web matures, I think we'll look back and realize that this is an era where the problem space looks like a tree: a trunk has sprung up of problems that we're solving, and then we're going to the highest levels of difficulty, branching out. Eventually, more will start doing what some people (like kreci) are just starting to do: working on easier problems. There's a whole world out there of things that we can easily be doing to help people with their day. They may not be 'noble', but even fart apps have their place in people's lives. Numerous fortunes have been made from pornography, professional wrestling, and soap operas. We'd do well to remember that.
- stonemetal 16y ago
  You missed the part where he isn't asking for money so people are not paying money for these apps.

by andreyf 16y ago

steveklabnik 16y ago

> Just because people are willing to pay money for it doesn't mean it's worth your time. By definition, if someone is willing to pay money for something, it's worth _their_ time, which is the whole point of making products. We preach "Making something that a customer finds valuable. MVP and iterate. Get lots of feedback to build something the customer wants." So kreci builds something people want. > ust as AIDS or cancer research is more "useful" than penis pills or breast enhancement surgery regardless of profitability This is where the main discrepancy comes in. You guys are talking about two different things: 'value' within a capitalist framework and 'nobility' within your particular moral one. Neither one is necessarily 'better', but that's the core difference.

Yzupnick 16y ago
> This is where the main discrepancy comes in. You guys are talking about two different things: 'value' within a capitalist framework and 'nobility' within your particular moral one. Neither one is necessarily 'better', but that's the core difference. I think this is something that is confused all the time, even by people who realize the distinction. It is something I (and I suspect others) find hard to keep track of without actively thinking about it.
- steveklabnik 16y ago
  Absolutely. I think it's a common trap that we all fall into; I know that I do, for sure. We assume that something doesn't have any value unless it solves a hard problem. In reality, there's a ton of low-hanging fruit out there just waiting to be exploited. As the web matures, I think we'll look back and realize that this is an era where the problem space looks like a tree: a trunk has sprung up of problems that we're solving, and then we're going to the highest levels of difficulty, branching out. Eventually, more will start doing what some people (like kreci) are just starting to do: working on easier problems. There's a whole world out there of things that we can easily be doing to help people with their day. They may not be 'noble', but even fart apps have their place in people's lives. Numerous fortunes have been made from pornography, professional wrestling, and soap operas. We'd do well to remember that.
stonemetal 16y ago
You missed the part where he isn't asking for money so people are not paying money for these apps.