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While I understand the concerns and I appreciate all of what Conversations' author is doing for the community, other clients have also seen significant improvem

by ppjet6 8y ago

While I understand the concerns and I appreciate all of what Conversations' author is doing for the community, other clients have also seen significant improvements lately. Gajim[0] has practically come back from the "dead". There is a huge difference, UI/UX-wise but not just, between pre and post 1.0, (1.1 at the time of writing, 1.2 coming). There is also dino[1], a nice and simple desktop client, and converse.js[2], a fast-developing web-client. Movim[3] and Salut-à-Toi[4] are also putting in a lot of work on the social network side. [0]: https://gajim.org https://gajim.org [1]: https://dino.im https://dino.im [2]: https://conversejs.org https://conversejs.org [3]: https://movim.eu https://movim.eu [4]: https://salut-a-toi.org https://salut-a-toi.org Edit: Added conversejs

yosamino 8y ago
For sure! I use gajim as my main Desktop client. And thanks for the link to salut-a-toi, I hadn't heard of it.
pmlnr 8y ago
I still prefer pidgin, but it needs a lot of love to make it a reasonably modern XMPP client: - https://github.com/danielkraic/Pidgin-XEP-0136-plugin https://github.com/danielkraic/Pidgin-XEP-0136-plugin adds XEP-0136 (needs "mam_archive" on prosody) - https://github.com/gkdr/carbons https://github.com/gkdr/carbons adds XEP-0280 (Carbons) - https://github.com/Junker/purple-xmpp-http-upload https://github.com/Junker/purple-xmpp-http-upload adds XEP-363 (HTTP uploads) - https://github.com/gkdr/lurch https://github.com/gkdr/lurch adds XEP-0384 (OMEMO) - https://github.com/noonien-d/pidgin-xmpp-receipts https://github.com/noonien-d/pidgin-xmpp-receipts XEP-0184 (message delivery receipts) The real pain for Pidgin is the complete lack of XEP-313 due to Pidgin's aged logging system, and I would really like to see a working message sync for Pidgin :( EDIT: https://github.com/CkNoSFeRaTU/pidgin https://github.com/CkNoSFeRaTU/pidgin apparently has had XEP-313 patched into Pidgin for years now. Combined with lurch and Carbons, message sync is working fine.
- ge0rg 8y ago
  I wish Pidgin would just disappear. It is absolutely unusable without all these plugins in a modern multi client world, and most users don't know they need them. The delivery receipts issue is a decade old [0]! Libpurple is a mess to implement all the modern features, because it tries to support the baseline of so many different protocols. [0] https://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/6940 https://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/6940
  - pmlnr 8y ago
    I wish it would reborn, that I agree on. Disappear - no. Please no. I still need to connect to 3-4 systems, and the last thing I want is 3-4 messengers, especially if all of them are webapps. Pidgin is still the only thing standing between me and total messenger madness.

by ppjet6 8y ago

yosamino 8y ago

For sure! I use gajim as my main Desktop client. And thanks for the link to salut-a-toi, I hadn't heard of it.

pmlnr 8y ago

I still prefer pidgin, but it needs a lot of love to make it a reasonably modern XMPP client: - https://github.com/danielkraic/Pidgin-XEP-0136-plugin https://github.com/danielkraic/Pidgin-XEP-0136-plugin adds XEP-0136 (needs "mam_archive" on prosody) - https://github.com/gkdr/carbons https://github.com/gkdr/carbons adds XEP-0280 (Carbons) - https://github.com/Junker/purple-xmpp-http-upload https://github.com/Junker/purple-xmpp-http-upload adds XEP-363 (HTTP uploads) - https://github.com/gkdr/lurch https://github.com/gkdr/lurch adds XEP-0384 (OMEMO) - https://github.com/noonien-d/pidgin-xmpp-receipts https://github.com/noonien-d/pidgin-xmpp-receipts XEP-0184 (message delivery receipts) The real pain for Pidgin is the complete lack of XEP-313 due to Pidgin's aged logging system, and I would really like to see a working message sync for Pidgin :( EDIT: https://github.com/CkNoSFeRaTU/pidgin https://github.com/CkNoSFeRaTU/pidgin apparently has had XEP-313 patched into Pidgin for years now. Combined with lurch and Carbons, message sync is working fine.

ge0rg 8y ago
I wish Pidgin would just disappear. It is absolutely unusable without all these plugins in a modern multi client world, and most users don't know they need them. The delivery receipts issue is a decade old [0]! Libpurple is a mess to implement all the modern features, because it tries to support the baseline of so many different protocols. [0] https://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/6940 https://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/6940
- pmlnr 8y ago
  I wish it would reborn, that I agree on. Disappear - no. Please no. I still need to connect to 3-4 systems, and the last thing I want is 3-4 messengers, especially if all of them are webapps. Pidgin is still the only thing standing between me and total messenger madness.