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From the TOS of the company website: > These terms are interpreted and are subject to the jurisdiction and the laws of Poland Which is really intriguing, sinc
by pawelk 8y ago
From the TOS of the company website:
> These terms are interpreted and are subject to the jurisdiction and the laws of Poland
Which is really intriguing, since organizing any form of lottery or chance-based game is so complicated, that virtually nobody who knows anything about the subject would dare to try.
When I worked in advertising nobody in their right mind would create a promotional campaign with prizes given away to randomly picked winners, there had to be objective criteria (skill, talent, popular vote etc). E.g. when we made a memo-like browser game, the lawyers said we need to show all the cards for a few seconds, so there's an element of skill (memorization of the board) instead of chance (the cards being randomly distributed). And if my memory serves, finishing the game was required to enter the contest, but to win the prize there was an extra text field where participants had to answer something like "why would you like to win the prize?", and the best answer, picked by a jury, was awarded.
There were people playing poker with family and friends raided by police. (I think poker is now considered at leat partially skill based and some laws were fixed since).
There were teachers going trough hell when trying to make a simple lottery as a part of school fund raiser event.
If they really operate in / from Poland, it may not take long for this to get shut down if the authorities get involved.
Edit: found a detailed overview of the regulations in English here:
https://uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/8-635-6028?transitionType=Default&contextData=(sc.Default)&firstPage=true&comp=pluk&bhcp=1 https://uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/8-635-6028?transi...
- merlincorey 8y ago> There were people playing poker with family and friends raided by police. (I think poker is now considered at leat partially skill based and some laws were fixed since). Only if they take a rake. There is nothing illegal about playing poker for money privately with friends. However, if there is a fee paid to the house, especially in the form of rake for tournaments or hands in ring games, then you are now breaking the law, if you are transacting in USD in the US.
- Ralfp 8y agoIf they are really a lottery, they are betting it on nobody from Poland taking interest in them, because lotteries in Poland are de-facto state monopoly due to amount of requirements imposed on lottery organizers: Lottery draws are done in presence of commission including members of state's Commission of games and gambling (Komisja gier i zakładów - KGiZ). Commission members are named in document describing game's terms and conditions. Commission records and protocols drawing process, and stores those because lottery participants have unconditional right to request access to them. Possible fines went into millions of PLN - enough to sink small company and piss off larger one. I've been working at advertising agency doing lotteries for certain big home brand. The way we did that was paying 3rd party company with ties to KGiZ for organizing those, because it was crazy to try doing it otherwise.