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Do you have an example of those types of arguments? The linked article doesn't actually go into any of then and just referenced books I couldn't find. I'm very

Do you have an example of those types of arguments? The linked article doesn't actually go into any of then and just referenced books I couldn't find. I'm very curious about this subject because in high school I took theology classes and the monks taught about the logical arguments but the arguments were always a little lackluster (the teacher's knew this going into it). The teacher's point during that section was that it would always require faith.

stephenhuey 8y ago
Peruse the short arguments section on Peter Kreeft's website: http://www.peterkreeft.com/featured-writing.htm http://www.peterkreeft.com/featured-writing.htm
- byproxy 8y ago
  I've just read one (http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics/design.htm http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics/design.htm) and it was less than convincing. In fact, I feel like it's a less-crude version of Mac's argument (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgk8UdV7GQ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgk8UdV7GQ0).
  - stephenhuey 8y ago
    I don't know much about Mac, but I'm sure he was inspired by others, as was Kreeft. There's a lot more besides the one you read, e.g. http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/20_arguments-gods-existence.htm http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/20_arguments-gods-exi... I've read the Handbook of Christian Apologetics by Kreeft and it tries to make these philosophical topics more accessible to the average reader. There are numerous speakers and writers out there, and you may prefer one of them. For example, Tim Keller is quite different and you can hear him here: https://gospelinlife.com/downloads/literalism-isn-t-the-bible-historically-unreliable-and-regressive-am-5496/ https://gospelinlife.com/downloads/literalism-isn-t-the-bibl... I've enjoyed reading Dallas Willard: http://www.dwillard.org/articles/individual/language-being-god-and-the-three-stages-of-theistic-evidence http://www.dwillard.org/articles/individual/language-being-g...
rsyring 8y ago
Sorry, the link wasn't that good in hindsight. Was trying to respond between meetings. Here is a better jumping off point : http://www.veritas.org/how-does-christianity-measure-up/ http://www.veritas.org/how-does-christianity-measure-up/ If you want a very in depth treatment, then: https://www.amazon.com/Doctrine-Knowledge-God-Theology-Lordship/dp/0875522629 https://www.amazon.com/Doctrine-Knowledge-God-Theology-Lords...

stephenhuey 8y ago

Peruse the short arguments section on Peter Kreeft's website: http://www.peterkreeft.com/featured-writing.htm http://www.peterkreeft.com/featured-writing.htm

byproxy 8y ago
I've just read one (http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics/design.htm http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics/design.htm) and it was less than convincing. In fact, I feel like it's a less-crude version of Mac's argument (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgk8UdV7GQ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgk8UdV7GQ0).
- stephenhuey 8y ago
  I don't know much about Mac, but I'm sure he was inspired by others, as was Kreeft. There's a lot more besides the one you read, e.g. http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/20_arguments-gods-existence.htm http://www.peterkreeft.com/topics-more/20_arguments-gods-exi... I've read the Handbook of Christian Apologetics by Kreeft and it tries to make these philosophical topics more accessible to the average reader. There are numerous speakers and writers out there, and you may prefer one of them. For example, Tim Keller is quite different and you can hear him here: https://gospelinlife.com/downloads/literalism-isn-t-the-bible-historically-unreliable-and-regressive-am-5496/ https://gospelinlife.com/downloads/literalism-isn-t-the-bibl... I've enjoyed reading Dallas Willard: http://www.dwillard.org/articles/individual/language-being-god-and-the-three-stages-of-theistic-evidence http://www.dwillard.org/articles/individual/language-being-g...

rsyring 8y ago

Sorry, the link wasn't that good in hindsight. Was trying to respond between meetings. Here is a better jumping off point : http://www.veritas.org/how-does-christianity-measure-up/ http://www.veritas.org/how-does-christianity-measure-up/ If you want a very in depth treatment, then: https://www.amazon.com/Doctrine-Knowledge-God-Theology-Lordship/dp/0875522629 https://www.amazon.com/Doctrine-Knowledge-God-Theology-Lords...