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Exactly same experience. Tried vegetarian, vegan, paleo, strict paleo, carnivore. My actual best was eating beef only. I lost 6kg in a month without trying to
by moltar 8y ago
Exactly same experience. Tried vegetarian, vegan, paleo, strict paleo, carnivore.
My actual best was eating beef only. I lost 6kg in a month without trying to lose weight. I had almost no hunger. I ate at 6pm my first meal on a couple of occasions, and normally wouldn’t feel any hunger until 1-2 pm.
- adriand 8y agoNo judgment here (do what you need to do) but this is both bad for the environment and bad for your health (cancer, heart disease, etc.)
- justtopost 8y agoThat is judgy as hell, and untrue. Come back with facts or stop pushing your agenda.
- adriand 8y agoThe scientific basis for links between red meat production and environmental harm due to greenhouse gases, and between red meat consumption and harm to individual health, is well established. I’m not here to criticize the choices of one individual - I genuinely don’t care - but civilizationally a reliance on beef for the majority of our protein requirements would be a singularly poor strategy.
- graeme 8y agoThere's one thing I've wondered about beef and greenhouse gases. People say that cows produce co2. They also say that an increase in the human population does not produce co2. It seems that either one claim is wrong, OR cows are somehow different from humans in their effect on the carbon cycle. One notable difference is that cows produce more methane than we do. This has the effect of increasing short term warming as methane has a much more powerful warming effect over 100 years. But other than that, when cow emissions are cited, are people simply adding up the co2 cows breathe? If so, why is this invalid for humans? Or if it is valid for humans, then how are cow emissions determined? I could see land use change being one reason, but that would seem to apply to humans too. Can anyone clarify this? It would seem that either both humans and cows are net co2 contributors, or neither are. (Apart from methane)
- lookACamel 8y agoThey're talking about the methane, and also about using land to grow grain for feeding the cows.
- graeme 8y agoSo in the latter case, more humans do cause co2 to the extent we each need food and land uses changes to provide that food. In the case of cows, it's the same calculus: land use change to feed us. Just, more land use change in the case of cows. So, therefore, a cow raised on pasture that isn't suited for other farming wouldn't be especially co2 producing by that measure, correct? Apart from methane. So, we could reduce cows contributions to: * Eliminating their methane (seaweed experiments, etc) * restricting cattle to land suitable for pasture but not so suitable for crops If cattle were only raised in those cases, that would effectively negate their warming impact? This would still mean a massive reduction in beef and much higher prices of course.
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- moltar 8y agoThat is an example of excellent critical thinking skills.
- graeme 8y agoThanks! The cow emissions thing has had me confused for a while. I looked into it a bit further, and it seems cows produce more methane on grass, which is not good. I don't know if those seaweed proposals work on a grass based diet, or if they're only for cows largely fed grain.
- alguem 8y agoHumans as primates falls under family that is mostly frugivores (meaning eats more fruits than anything else) and also there is a fact that no other animal on earth needs to cook stuff to make them edible: https://www.precisionnutrition.com/all-about-cooking-carcinogens https://www.precisionnutrition.com/all-about-cooking-carcino...
- QuantumAphid 8y agoHmm. Why is it that humans spread across the planet to geographically diverse places and climates, many of which are sorely lacking (if not completely devoid) with regard to availability of fruit?
- moltar 8y agoThat is nonsense. Lots of population lives in places with zero fruits in the winter. Inuits live in the north of Canada. Their ONLY food source is seals all year round. They are fine in terms of health. Their health declined with introduction of modern foods brought in by researchers and other visitors.
- eaenki 8y agoWhat about Googling "meat cancer" and then filtering by .edu and .gov domains? Or just go to Google Scholar. Then repeat for "greenhouse emissions meat". If you're not helpless, out of thousands of papers you'll find some sources you deem "true and hella reputable".
- dang 8y agoFlamewar comments like this will get you banned here. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and don't post like this to HN.
- icebraining 8y agoLosing 6kg in a month seems good if one if overweight, but not a sustainable diet; did you change it after hitting a good weight?
- moltar 8y agoI was skinny-fat. It did plateau when I lost the excess.
- TheBeardKing 8y agoHave you tried like, you know, a regular healthy, balanced diet? Real foods, mostly plants, not too much? Just funny you didn't include that. As a side note, the Mediterranean diet has been ranked the top diet by nutritionists several years running.
- QuantumAphid 8y agoIs there an official specific Mediterranean diet? Is it the Mediterranean of Spain, Italy, Greece, Turkey, Lebanon, or Egypt, etc.? And from what era/period, because my understanding is that those places are seeing significant increases in chronic metabolic disease as well. From what I've read, Mediterranean means something sorta along the lines of "natural whole foods, not much meat, lots of olive oil nuts and salads" -- and this is vague nutrition advice which can apply to almost any non-exclusionary diet.
- TheBeardKing 8y agoI really don't know, as I don't really research diets and just see that headline year after year. My point was just that, as you said, the most recommended diet isn't going to be one with some sort of gimmick - limit your cals to this number, your carbs, to this number, only eat during these times, don't eat this one entire food group, etc. The general guidelines of Mediterranean diets seem pretty good to me, and I'm totally on board with a little red wine every day.
- QuantumAphid 8y agoI agree that this sounds like a pleasant and sustainable diet. However, like many diets, it all depends on your starting point. I'm skeptical that this is an effective weight-loss diet in the sense that an obese person or someone with a chronic metabolic illness (CVD, T2D, high blood pressure) will lose weight on. Anecdotally 5 years ago I followed this diet about and I put on weight.
- moltar 8y agoI’ve tried many diets. Including, ofc, just what some people would call a “balanced diet” whatever that even means. I’ve been experimenting with diets for fun for about 12y now.