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It actually isn't! I've recently done most of the work of translating it to English. So anywhere Stripe Connect is, I am.
by mikker 8y ago
It actually isn't! I've recently done most of the work of translating it to English. So anywhere Stripe Connect is, I am.
- sschueller 8y agoAre you at all worried that stripe might pressure you to remove certain users from your site like patreon is currently doing? Do you have any future plans to use alternative non-US payment providers? For example Subscribestar can no longer accept paypal payments. [1] [1] https://www.subscribestar.com/subscribestar https://www.subscribestar.com/subscribestar
- mikker 8y agoNot really. I have the same policy of not allowing hate speech and the like. I don't see myself as a "Patreon competitor" in that sense. Without getting myself into a debate I've only read a little about, I think good on them for controlling who gets to use their platform. I don't think of that as censorship, really. I have no plans to add anything but Stripe, no. I realize how vulnerable that makes me and my relationship with them but you have to trust someone. I have used Paypal before and I didn't like it at all.
- raarts 8y ago> I have the same policy of not allowing hate speech and the like For whoever is interested: this is the (Google translated) text in the Terms of 10er: "The service must not be used for any illegal activity. Nor should the service be used in connection with violent, hateful, racist or similar activities. Brainbow defines in its own right what can be classified as being in one of these categories." You are indeed not a competitor for Patreon. The biggest problem people seem to have with Patreon is exactly this: every company creating its own definition of hate speech, which could result in their customers (creators) being cut off their income for things they say, even on other platforms. Which effectively creates censorship, and a growing administrative cost for all companies.
- sschueller 8y agoI don't understand this. Why not base it on what is legal by law in your country? Require a court order to have things removed. Take Paypal and who ever to court in your country if they deny you service because of this and threaten to have their permits to do business in your country removed.
- pjc50 8y agoQuite a lot of people don't want to facilitate this kind of thing, and certainly don't want to have their name associated with it.
- mikker 8y agoExactly. I fully support anyone’s right to say what they want. But I’m a business and if your business is racist bullshit (for example) I don’t want to do business with you. I’m not censoring nor silencing nor putting anyone in prison. But I’m politely refusing to receive your money and work with you. Money isn’t everything.
- raarts 8y agoThat's all fine and dandy, but the problem is that in this case there is no alternative, and if they are created, they are shut down, because payment processors like Paypal and Stripe refuse to do business with them. Payment processors currently have too much power. They should be legally refrained from choosing their customers, just like telecom companies for example. In most free countries telecom companies are not allowed to refuse/block customers based on people's political views. And rightly so.
- sschueller 8y agoThere is the underlying issue. If you don't fight for those people who you don't agree with or despise although legal you will eventually loose your freedoms too. If you want free speech you need to protect all of it.