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Similar to America where Republicans and Democrats are really no different from each other in the grand scheme of things.

by oth001 8y ago

jopsen 8y ago
Wow, Not true, it looks so from where you're sitting. But politics change a lot over time. It's slow moving and in a two party system, you are unlikely to see big differences between either side. That said, the world would have looked differently had Hilary won in 2016.
- spuz 8y ago
  Or Gore in 2001
  - codetrotter 8y ago
    2000
- jessaustin 8y ago
  Syria would have looked different, that's for sure.
  - jessaustin 8y ago
    (i.e., more like Libya looks now)
mikeash 8y ago
For example, they both want to dismantle social security, move away from anything resembling universal health care, shut down immigration from non-white countries, cut taxes, and jack up military spending. Wait a minute....
- throwaway7312 8y ago
  Open borders / illegal immigration from poor / brown countries is a Republican position. They've pushed it since before Reagan's amnesty to benefit corporate special interests. [1] Democrats are late to that game, but now both parties agree: more cheap immigrants for their corporate masters. The Republican party vehemently opposed Donald Trump during the elections of 2015/6 and throughout his first year in office in large part due to his ambivalence toward immigration. There are some opposed to mass immigration among the elected officials of both parties (growing among the Republicans, shrinking among the Democrats), but they remain a minority. Never mind that large majorities of both Republican and Democrat electorates want less immigration [2]... the corporate sponsors want more, thus so do the representatives. This is how politics works in the United States. The Parties put on a puff show of differing over hot button social issues that whip the electorate into a frenzy. Meanwhile the elected representatives of both parties go to great lengths to satisfy their corporate and international donors, who are the same for the representatives of both parties. The plebes fight over the kabuki theater of climate change and transsexual bathrooms while the rulers work together on issues of substance without the interference or awareness of the common man. Perhaps it's better that way? Edward Bernays certainly thought so. [3] [1] https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2018/11/the-left-case-against-open-borders/ https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2018/11/the-left-case-aga... [2] http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Final_HHP_Jan2018-Refield_RegisteredVoters_XTab.pdf http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Fina... [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s
eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago
This tired and ignorant take is so frustrating to continue to see, especially after the Trump win.

Similar to America where Republicans and Democrats are really no different from each other in the grand scheme of things.

by oth001 8y ago

Similar to America where Republicans and Democrats are really no different from each other in the grand scheme of things.

jopsen 8y ago

Wow, Not true, it looks so from where you're sitting. But politics change a lot over time. It's slow moving and in a two party system, you are unlikely to see big differences between either side. That said, the world would have looked differently had Hilary won in 2016.

spuz 8y ago
Or Gore in 2001
- codetrotter 8y ago
  2000
jessaustin 8y ago
Syria would have looked different, that's for sure.
- jessaustin 8y ago
  (i.e., more like Libya looks now)

mikeash 8y ago

For example, they both want to dismantle social security, move away from anything resembling universal health care, shut down immigration from non-white countries, cut taxes, and jack up military spending. Wait a minute....

throwaway7312 8y ago
Open borders / illegal immigration from poor / brown countries is a Republican position. They've pushed it since before Reagan's amnesty to benefit corporate special interests. [1] Democrats are late to that game, but now both parties agree: more cheap immigrants for their corporate masters. The Republican party vehemently opposed Donald Trump during the elections of 2015/6 and throughout his first year in office in large part due to his ambivalence toward immigration. There are some opposed to mass immigration among the elected officials of both parties (growing among the Republicans, shrinking among the Democrats), but they remain a minority. Never mind that large majorities of both Republican and Democrat electorates want less immigration [2]... the corporate sponsors want more, thus so do the representatives. This is how politics works in the United States. The Parties put on a puff show of differing over hot button social issues that whip the electorate into a frenzy. Meanwhile the elected representatives of both parties go to great lengths to satisfy their corporate and international donors, who are the same for the representatives of both parties. The plebes fight over the kabuki theater of climate change and transsexual bathrooms while the rulers work together on issues of substance without the interference or awareness of the common man. Perhaps it's better that way? Edward Bernays certainly thought so. [3] [1] https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2018/11/the-left-case-against-open-borders/ https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2018/11/the-left-case-aga... [2] http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Final_HHP_Jan2018-Refield_RegisteredVoters_XTab.pdf http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Fina... [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s

eeeeeeeeeeeee 8y ago

This tired and ignorant take is so frustrating to continue to see, especially after the Trump win.