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Pay more money for all the desirable jobs, nevermind the undesirable jobs, and don't enslave women under a patriarchy of indentured motherhood. Also, women dese

Pay more money for all the desirable jobs, nevermind the undesirable jobs, and don't enslave women under a patriarchy of indentured motherhood. Also, women deserve compensation for entertaining the premise of marriage in all cases, and should retain total autonomy of childcare upon the failure of a marriage, and total purchasing authority, when compensated extra for childcare, after divorce.

xupybd 8y ago
>Pay more money for all the desirable jobs, never mind the undesirable jobs But how? We've found that market economies tend to work the best. These pay based on supply and demand. The other option is a planned economy where you might be able to attempt something like this but all examples of planned economies have resulted in so much suffering I don't think we want to try that again. Who is going to drive the rubbish trucks, clean the toilets, keep the sewers flowing and look after the sick and elderly if we get rid of all the undesirable jobs? Some jobs are horrible to do but we need them done. Evidence that children cared for in the home may have better outcomes than those in child care need not lead to the conclusion that women must be forced into indentured motherhood. It simply means we have a problem to investigate. There might be a better way to do this. But doesn't your comment that women "should retain total autonomy of childcare upon the failure of a marriage" suggest that you think women are the only party responsible for childcare?
- pay_more_money 8y ago
  Here's a subtle clue: even under tightly controlled, planned social arrangements, for example, when you attempt to bring a criminal to justice, you might sometimes find incentives that create underground market economies. Spooky bribery at a distance, if you will. Surrogate motherhood is rare and problematic, but in some cases there is enough incentive to simply carry a child for a reward, and then exit the parental role. Sometimes, this might even happen with unplanned pregnancies. What's the tipping point that splits the difference between terminating a pregnancy, versus a charade marriage incentivized by court mandated custody and support arrangements that bring justice to an potentially unjust circumstance befalling an unfortunate couple?
  - xupybd 8y ago
    I'm sorry I don't understand what you are saying here? Are you saying that the court system is forcing people into charade marriages? If so I'm not sure there is evidence of that. The number of divorces and single parenthood has skyrocketed in recent years. If anything I think there is something about modern society pushing people away from marriage. But as I say I'm not sure I follow what you're saying.
  - jelliclesfarm 8y ago
    This begs the question: why get married?
cheez 8y ago
Obviously a joke poster

xupybd 8y ago

>Pay more money for all the desirable jobs, never mind the undesirable jobs But how? We've found that market economies tend to work the best. These pay based on supply and demand. The other option is a planned economy where you might be able to attempt something like this but all examples of planned economies have resulted in so much suffering I don't think we want to try that again. Who is going to drive the rubbish trucks, clean the toilets, keep the sewers flowing and look after the sick and elderly if we get rid of all the undesirable jobs? Some jobs are horrible to do but we need them done. Evidence that children cared for in the home may have better outcomes than those in child care need not lead to the conclusion that women must be forced into indentured motherhood. It simply means we have a problem to investigate. There might be a better way to do this. But doesn't your comment that women "should retain total autonomy of childcare upon the failure of a marriage" suggest that you think women are the only party responsible for childcare?

pay_more_money 8y ago
Here's a subtle clue: even under tightly controlled, planned social arrangements, for example, when you attempt to bring a criminal to justice, you might sometimes find incentives that create underground market economies. Spooky bribery at a distance, if you will. Surrogate motherhood is rare and problematic, but in some cases there is enough incentive to simply carry a child for a reward, and then exit the parental role. Sometimes, this might even happen with unplanned pregnancies. What's the tipping point that splits the difference between terminating a pregnancy, versus a charade marriage incentivized by court mandated custody and support arrangements that bring justice to an potentially unjust circumstance befalling an unfortunate couple?
- xupybd 8y ago
  I'm sorry I don't understand what you are saying here? Are you saying that the court system is forcing people into charade marriages? If so I'm not sure there is evidence of that. The number of divorces and single parenthood has skyrocketed in recent years. If anything I think there is something about modern society pushing people away from marriage. But as I say I'm not sure I follow what you're saying.
- jelliclesfarm 8y ago
  This begs the question: why get married?

cheez 8y ago

Obviously a joke poster