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More like those two did not possess enough skills to qualify for a better visa. No country inherently needs immigrants who can't contribute anything. Zero sympa

More like those two did not possess enough skills to qualify for a better visa. No country inherently needs immigrants who can't contribute anything. Zero sympathy for them. laowhy86 and serpentza subsisted off a horde of uninformed people who couldn't be bothered to even read Wikipedia articles about a country. This is evident through the clickbait-y style and non-existent intellectual depth of their videos.

bowmessage 8y ago
Guess you didn't watch their motorcycle touring videos? Astounding, hyper-local, cultural documentaries. Very much contributing to the country. Or you're another state sponsored troll?
- ssnistfajen 8y ago
  That was in their early days when they were not as desperate to resort to clickbait. Do you use shill accusations against every person you disagree with? I almost feel sorry for your vile attitude and ignorance.
- dang 8y ago
  Attack another user like that will get you banned here. Please follow the guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
ProAm 8y ago
> No country inherently needs immigrants who can't contribute anything. Zero sympathy for them. We're all people of the earth who do not need inherit value to live with some imaginary line on the ground.
- EpicEng 8y ago
  >We're all people of the earth who do not need inherit value to live with some imaginary line on the ground. I'm not agreeing with the GP, but the world simply doesn't work that way. Travel across the "imaginary lines" you speak of are controlled via military might, so perhaps they're not just "imaginary". See how well you fare attempting to run across the NK/SK border.
  - claudiawerner 8y ago
    Being "made up" (what I think GP means by "imaginary") doesn't mean that such things lack force. For instance, class is "made up" and some ontologies of race and gender fix them as "made up" - this does not, of course, mean that class, race and gender do not have very real effects on society and the individuals therein. But humans have power over human abstractions, so such "made up" things can be changed, as opposed to what I presume OP would group into things not "made up", such as the laws of physics. Being "made up" hints to a possibility, no matter how remote, of a different (and dare I say better) world.
    - EpicEng 8y ago
      Calling them "imaginary lines" was an obvious attempt by the GP to disregard them as meaningless. They are not meaningless, that was my point.
      - claudiawerner 8y ago
        But by the same token, if we assume that GP is more than a simpleton (in the principle of charity) we must say that they would also consider art (always created by human intention) to be "imaginary lines", but I doubt they would deny paintings can have meaning. Words (usually though not always naturally evolved), by the same token, are just scrawls, but they have meaning despite being "made up" in the same way. GP knows they have meaning because he/she is using them in such a way. I read the idea that the lines are imaginary to mean that they don't have to be that way.

bowmessage 8y ago

Guess you didn't watch their motorcycle touring videos? Astounding, hyper-local, cultural documentaries. Very much contributing to the country. Or you're another state sponsored troll?

ssnistfajen 8y ago
That was in their early days when they were not as desperate to resort to clickbait. Do you use shill accusations against every person you disagree with? I almost feel sorry for your vile attitude and ignorance.
dang 8y ago
Attack another user like that will get you banned here. Please follow the guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

ProAm 8y ago

> No country inherently needs immigrants who can't contribute anything. Zero sympathy for them. We're all people of the earth who do not need inherit value to live with some imaginary line on the ground.

EpicEng 8y ago
>We're all people of the earth who do not need inherit value to live with some imaginary line on the ground. I'm not agreeing with the GP, but the world simply doesn't work that way. Travel across the "imaginary lines" you speak of are controlled via military might, so perhaps they're not just "imaginary". See how well you fare attempting to run across the NK/SK border.
- claudiawerner 8y ago
  Being "made up" (what I think GP means by "imaginary") doesn't mean that such things lack force. For instance, class is "made up" and some ontologies of race and gender fix them as "made up" - this does not, of course, mean that class, race and gender do not have very real effects on society and the individuals therein. But humans have power over human abstractions, so such "made up" things can be changed, as opposed to what I presume OP would group into things not "made up", such as the laws of physics. Being "made up" hints to a possibility, no matter how remote, of a different (and dare I say better) world.
  - EpicEng 8y ago
    Calling them "imaginary lines" was an obvious attempt by the GP to disregard them as meaningless. They are not meaningless, that was my point.
    - claudiawerner 8y ago
      But by the same token, if we assume that GP is more than a simpleton (in the principle of charity) we must say that they would also consider art (always created by human intention) to be "imaginary lines", but I doubt they would deny paintings can have meaning. Words (usually though not always naturally evolved), by the same token, are just scrawls, but they have meaning despite being "made up" in the same way. GP knows they have meaning because he/she is using them in such a way. I read the idea that the lines are imaginary to mean that they don't have to be that way.