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That's actually a bigger definition that I usually use. I typically cal 14th or Houston the cutoff.
by berbec 8y ago
That's actually a bigger definition that I usually use. I typically cal 14th or Houston the cutoff.
- jermaustin1 8y agoI'm a Houston and below kind of guy. Once the streets lose their numbers, its lower Manhattan (and I get lost).
- berbec 8y agoI find that argument compelling, but I still vote 14th. That's where the west side starts to curve in and the streets stop being rectangles.
- bradleyjg 8y agoIt's true that there are numbers between Houston and 14th but they no longer necessarily make any sense. Consider the corner of W 4th St and W 13th St for example--that shouldn't exist.
- jermaustin1 8y agoThat's just quirky West Village stuff. I'd actually love to find a book on the history of why they abandoned the 90 degree corner and went off the grid pattern just for that small section.
- bradleyjg 8y agoWhen you go east of 6th things are still screwy south of 8th because of NYU and Washington Square Park. Then along Bowery / 4th Ave (!) things are screwed up again. It ends up being between 1/3 and 1/2 of Houston to 14th street that isn't a nice neat grid. At the end of the day it's arbitrary but I'd say the core grid part of the city is from 14th to 96th. Even within that it isn't perfect, for example Broadway goes whatever it feels like going, but mostly you aren't going to get lost there.