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Works only if lane splitting for motorcycles isn't allowed. You need to be able to see between lanes and the rearview can be obscured by a close following vehi

by adrr 8y ago

Works only if lane splitting for motorcycles isn't allowed. You need to be able to see between lanes and the rearview can be obscured by a close following vehicle you.

twblalock 8y ago
I set up the mirrors in my car this way and I can see the lane dividing lines just fine.
snarf21 8y ago
It also means you always need to re-adjust your mirrors for parking, especially for more urban areas. I don't understand why a portion of the mirror can't simply be made convex. There are lots of aftermarket adhesive ones that do exactly this.
- howeyc 8y ago
  Just tilt your head when parking. Parking is what, <10% of mirror use?
  - neaden 8y ago
    But more than 10% of accidents. A quick Google search turns up 20% of accidents happening in parking lots. Now those are likely to be lower speed than highway, but still something to keep in mind.
- moolcool 8y ago
  I bought a used car and it came with the sticky convex ones applied. Never going to go without them again, they should totally be mandatory. So simple, so effective
  - jnicholasp 8y ago
    This, exactly. I don't understand why these aren't required stock equipment on all cars.
- Marsymars 8y ago
  There are cars that come with a convex bit in the mirror in their stock configuration, it's been common in Ford's lineup for years.
- deltaecho1338 8y ago
  My 2014 vehicle came like this from the manufacturer - the exterior 1/3 of the mirror is convex for a wider field of view.
ceejayoz 8y ago
I'm not clear on why you think this doesn't work to see lane-splitting motorcycles. The idea is to have them work like a dual monitor setup - when part of an object moves off one screen, it's just then becoming visible on the second screen. Most people set up their mirrors as if they wanted to read the same PDF on both screens simultaneously.
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wcarron 8y ago
I disagree. Proper side view mirror alignment results in the car driver able to clearly see the dividing lines for a significant distance behind the car. A vehicle following closely behind you does (or rather, should) not impede the side view mirrors.
- adrr 8y ago
  Maybe you should make an article on it. The article diagrams clearly shows a blind spot for lane splitting motorcycles just like every other article on the subject including the youtube videos showing proper alignment mirrors. A car following closely behind you impedes the rearview mirror. Just look out of it next time your stuck in stop and go traffic where lane splitting happens.
  - wcarron 8y ago
    I wrote: > A vehicle following closely behind you does (or rather, should) not impede the side view mirrors. You wrote: > A car following closely behind you impedes the rearview mirror. These are different things. Rear is for viewing the lane you are in. Side is for viewing things to the rear and side of you.
  - kazinator 8y ago
    > The article diagrams clearly shows a blind spot for lane splitting motorcycles No it doesn't; it clearly shows a blind spot immediately next to your vehicle that can at best hide a cyclist who sticks right next to your rear passenger door, or rear left body panel. (Unsurprisingly: these are the parts of your car you don't see.) You might nevertheless him or her in the rear-view through the rear passenger window or quarter glass. Also, you can still see into that area if you tilt your head to the right. That's because the mirror was adjusted that way: to just see the edge of your car with your head tilted toward the side window. I've always set up my mirrors exactly as this article suggests; I learned that in 1986. Before executing a lane change, I not only look in the rear-view mirror and side mirror, but also tilt my head left. Then just a glance left is required, because the lateral blind spot is so reduced by the positioning of the side mirror that it doesn't require a full head turn. > A car following closely behind you impedes the rearview mirror. Yes, a vehicle behind you can occlude a motorcyclist who is riding next to that vehicle. This will be the case even if you drive a convertible with its roof down, and turn your head to face in that direction. If you tilt your head to the left, you may still be able to see that rider in the side mirror, unless the vehicle behind you is very wide, or positioned to the left. In such a situation, that vehicle will be blocking more than just a stripe-riding motorcyclist; that vehicle will obstruct a significant view of the adjacent lane, preventing you from seeing a speeding vehicle a little ways back; you'd be foolish to execute a lane change while being tail-gated like that for reasons not related to stripe-riding motorcyclists.
kazinator 8y ago
Doesn't work compared to what other adjustment of the mirrors?

by adrr 8y ago

Works only if lane splitting for motorcycles isn't allowed. You need to be able to see between lanes and the rearview can be obscured by a close following vehicle you.

twblalock 8y ago

I set up the mirrors in my car this way and I can see the lane dividing lines just fine.

snarf21 8y ago

It also means you always need to re-adjust your mirrors for parking, especially for more urban areas. I don't understand why a portion of the mirror can't simply be made convex. There are lots of aftermarket adhesive ones that do exactly this.

howeyc 8y ago
Just tilt your head when parking. Parking is what, <10% of mirror use?
- neaden 8y ago
  But more than 10% of accidents. A quick Google search turns up 20% of accidents happening in parking lots. Now those are likely to be lower speed than highway, but still something to keep in mind.
moolcool 8y ago
I bought a used car and it came with the sticky convex ones applied. Never going to go without them again, they should totally be mandatory. So simple, so effective
- jnicholasp 8y ago
  This, exactly. I don't understand why these aren't required stock equipment on all cars.
Marsymars 8y ago
There are cars that come with a convex bit in the mirror in their stock configuration, it's been common in Ford's lineup for years.
deltaecho1338 8y ago
My 2014 vehicle came like this from the manufacturer - the exterior 1/3 of the mirror is convex for a wider field of view.

ceejayoz 8y ago

I'm not clear on why you think this doesn't work to see lane-splitting motorcycles. The idea is to have them work like a dual monitor setup - when part of an object moves off one screen, it's just then becoming visible on the second screen. Most people set up their mirrors as if they wanted to read the same PDF on both screens simultaneously.

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wcarron 8y ago

I disagree. Proper side view mirror alignment results in the car driver able to clearly see the dividing lines for a significant distance behind the car. A vehicle following closely behind you does (or rather, should) not impede the side view mirrors.

adrr 8y ago
Maybe you should make an article on it. The article diagrams clearly shows a blind spot for lane splitting motorcycles just like every other article on the subject including the youtube videos showing proper alignment mirrors. A car following closely behind you impedes the rearview mirror. Just look out of it next time your stuck in stop and go traffic where lane splitting happens.
- wcarron 8y ago
  I wrote: > A vehicle following closely behind you does (or rather, should) not impede the side view mirrors. You wrote: > A car following closely behind you impedes the rearview mirror. These are different things. Rear is for viewing the lane you are in. Side is for viewing things to the rear and side of you.
- kazinator 8y ago
  > The article diagrams clearly shows a blind spot for lane splitting motorcycles No it doesn't; it clearly shows a blind spot immediately next to your vehicle that can at best hide a cyclist who sticks right next to your rear passenger door, or rear left body panel. (Unsurprisingly: these are the parts of your car you don't see.) You might nevertheless him or her in the rear-view through the rear passenger window or quarter glass. Also, you can still see into that area if you tilt your head to the right. That's because the mirror was adjusted that way: to just see the edge of your car with your head tilted toward the side window. I've always set up my mirrors exactly as this article suggests; I learned that in 1986. Before executing a lane change, I not only look in the rear-view mirror and side mirror, but also tilt my head left. Then just a glance left is required, because the lateral blind spot is so reduced by the positioning of the side mirror that it doesn't require a full head turn. > A car following closely behind you impedes the rearview mirror. Yes, a vehicle behind you can occlude a motorcyclist who is riding next to that vehicle. This will be the case even if you drive a convertible with its roof down, and turn your head to face in that direction. If you tilt your head to the left, you may still be able to see that rider in the side mirror, unless the vehicle behind you is very wide, or positioned to the left. In such a situation, that vehicle will be blocking more than just a stripe-riding motorcyclist; that vehicle will obstruct a significant view of the adjacent lane, preventing you from seeing a speeding vehicle a little ways back; you'd be foolish to execute a lane change while being tail-gated like that for reasons not related to stripe-riding motorcyclists.

kazinator 8y ago

Doesn't work compared to what other adjustment of the mirrors?