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Tax budgets have a direct effect on people, and for people who have to work for a living, while it appears to be taking money, it is equivalently taking their t

Tax budgets have a direct effect on people, and for people who have to work for a living, while it appears to be taking money, it is equivalently taking their time, a fraction of their life.

fixermark 8y ago
There's an analogy, but it's a weak one. Again, money isn't people. Abusing labor laws gets people killed directly. Failure of a government to collect enough tax can get people harmed or killed indirectly, but it's the government's responsibility to set tax policy, not a corporation's.
- jakelazaroff 8y ago
  It's also the government's responsibility to set labor laws, but this doesn't absolve companies for mistreating their workers.
  - fixermark 8y ago
    It is a company's responsibility to follow laws. It is not, however, a company's responsibility to build highways, or to figure out how to finance the building of said highways, or to set up and fund public education, or to hire and pay police, is the point. When it becomes a company's responsibility to do so, we march gleefully into one of several dystopian cyberpunk science fictions (pick your favorite) ;)
    - falcolas 8y ago
      Companies, however, do take full advantage of the infrastructure built by the government using tax dollars, both directly and indirectly. For example, Google takes advantage of government contracts and grants, paid for by taxes. They also take advantage of the highway, city, water, power, education, housing, copyright and trademark laws, unemployment insurance, and legal (that is, the court system) infrastructure largely built and paid for (directly, by grants, or subsidies) using taxes.
      - fixermark 8y ago
        And they pay taxes for the privilege (either directly or indirectly, by paying employees who pay taxes).
      - manigandham 8y ago
        That's just circular logic. Google/people take advantage of things paid for by taxes, because they paid those taxes.
- PurpleBoxDragon 8y ago
  If I have to work 8 hours a day to make 6 hours of income because of tax, then 25% of the risk of me being killed in a day is because of the tax. Probably more, because the extra 2 hours of work will be while I'm more tired and will lead to me being more tired on the trip home than leaving after 6 hours of work.
manigandham 8y ago
No, it's taking a portion of income. You choose how to spend your time and if you spend it earning an income then you're taxed to pay for the other things that let society function so that you can do so. How much you earn in a given time is irrelevant.

Tax budgets have a direct effect on people, and for people who have to work for a living, while it appears to be taking money, it is equivalently taking their time, a fraction of their life.

fixermark 8y ago

There's an analogy, but it's a weak one. Again, money isn't people. Abusing labor laws gets people killed directly. Failure of a government to collect enough tax can get people harmed or killed indirectly, but it's the government's responsibility to set tax policy, not a corporation's.

jakelazaroff 8y ago
It's also the government's responsibility to set labor laws, but this doesn't absolve companies for mistreating their workers.
- fixermark 8y ago
  It is a company's responsibility to follow laws. It is not, however, a company's responsibility to build highways, or to figure out how to finance the building of said highways, or to set up and fund public education, or to hire and pay police, is the point. When it becomes a company's responsibility to do so, we march gleefully into one of several dystopian cyberpunk science fictions (pick your favorite) ;)
  - falcolas 8y ago
    Companies, however, do take full advantage of the infrastructure built by the government using tax dollars, both directly and indirectly. For example, Google takes advantage of government contracts and grants, paid for by taxes. They also take advantage of the highway, city, water, power, education, housing, copyright and trademark laws, unemployment insurance, and legal (that is, the court system) infrastructure largely built and paid for (directly, by grants, or subsidies) using taxes.
    - fixermark 8y ago
      And they pay taxes for the privilege (either directly or indirectly, by paying employees who pay taxes).
    - manigandham 8y ago
      That's just circular logic. Google/people take advantage of things paid for by taxes, because they paid those taxes.
PurpleBoxDragon 8y ago
If I have to work 8 hours a day to make 6 hours of income because of tax, then 25% of the risk of me being killed in a day is because of the tax. Probably more, because the extra 2 hours of work will be while I'm more tired and will lead to me being more tired on the trip home than leaving after 6 hours of work.

manigandham 8y ago

No, it's taking a portion of income. You choose how to spend your time and if you spend it earning an income then you're taxed to pay for the other things that let society function so that you can do so. How much you earn in a given time is irrelevant.