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It's definitely true. 1. Your time scale seems very off. The law rarely changes quickly. 2. None of these things have large scale social consensus, even where

It's definitely true. 1. Your time scale seems very off. The law rarely changes quickly. 2. None of these things have large scale social consensus, even where there are majorities. The closest is legalization of pot, and it is in fact becoming legal where there is consensus. But right now, surveys show only 62% of people US-wide support legalization of pot[1]. That's not social consensus of the kind that the law represents long term. [1] http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/10/08/americans-support-marijuana-legalization/ http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/10/08/americans-su... (I chose Pew since they are very independent, and for the record, i'm pro-legalization)

pm90 8y ago
> Your time scale seems very off. The law rarely changes quickly. Not true, especially in the US where it changes pretty quickly. Certainly quickly enough to close tax loopholes that are draining the Treasury. > None of these things have large scale social consensus, even where there are majorities. The closest is legalization of pot, and it is in fact becoming legal where there is consensus. Again, not true: * 62% for pot legalization http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/10/08/americans-support-marijuana-legalization/ http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/10/08/americans-su... * 66% support legal path for DREAMERS https://www.npr.org/2018/02/06/583402634/npr-poll-2-in-3-support-legal-status-for-dreamers-majority-oppose-building-a-wal https://www.npr.org/2018/02/06/583402634/npr-poll-2-in-3-sup... * 75% favor larger tax on corporations https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-tax/three-quarters-of-americans-favor-higher-taxes-for-wealthy-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSL2N1MM024 https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-tax/three-quarters-of-am...
- DannyBee 8y ago
  You seem to have cut out the actual argument i made, which you are in fact proving: 1. The law in the US definitely does not change quickly, and you've cited nothing to say it does. 2. I cited these very statistics and explicitly said they are not the kind of level of social consensus that tends to change the law. You have provided nothing to argue otherwise. I can't tell whether you claim it is not becoming legal where there is large enough local consensus (which is definitely true, and supports my larger point).

pm90 8y ago

> Your time scale seems very off. The law rarely changes quickly. Not true, especially in the US where it changes pretty quickly. Certainly quickly enough to close tax loopholes that are draining the Treasury. > None of these things have large scale social consensus, even where there are majorities. The closest is legalization of pot, and it is in fact becoming legal where there is consensus. Again, not true: * 62% for pot legalization http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/10/08/americans-support-marijuana-legalization/ http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/10/08/americans-su... * 66% support legal path for DREAMERS https://www.npr.org/2018/02/06/583402634/npr-poll-2-in-3-support-legal-status-for-dreamers-majority-oppose-building-a-wal https://www.npr.org/2018/02/06/583402634/npr-poll-2-in-3-sup... * 75% favor larger tax on corporations https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-tax/three-quarters-of-americans-favor-higher-taxes-for-wealthy-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSL2N1MM024 https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-tax/three-quarters-of-am...

DannyBee 8y ago
You seem to have cut out the actual argument i made, which you are in fact proving: 1. The law in the US definitely does not change quickly, and you've cited nothing to say it does. 2. I cited these very statistics and explicitly said they are not the kind of level of social consensus that tends to change the law. You have provided nothing to argue otherwise. I can't tell whether you claim it is not becoming legal where there is large enough local consensus (which is definitely true, and supports my larger point).