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The context is important, Alex Jones was using that study to say that the government was turning people gay intentionally.

by bm1362 8y ago

scottlocklin 8y ago
Probably so, but nobody else with his reach was covering this. Seems kind of important to me!
- ceejayoz 8y ago
  That's simply false. NYT in 2003: https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/19/us/popular-pesticide-faulted-for-frogs-sexual-abnormalities.html https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/19/us/popular-pesticide-faul... BBC in 2007: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1930658.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1930658.stm
  - scottlocklin 8y ago
    Humor me for a minute here: 1) Google Atrazine (I get 1.7m hits) 2) Google "making frogs gay" (I get 4.9m hits) I'm pretty sure this means Alex Jones did a better job of informing humanity that atrazine might be a problem than the NYT or any other news organization. I'm assuming Alex Jones is the source, or at least the main popularizer of the meme "making frogs gay." I could be wrong about that, and maybe it was someone else! Or maybe everything Alex Jones does is bad. But it looks like he raised an important issue and effectively put it into people's brains.
    - ceejayoz 8y ago
      That's a major goalpost move. Let's evaluate it for a moment, though. You posit Jones helped inform humanity about atrazine... but your tallies indicate that at least 3.2M of the 4.9M (65%) "making frogs gay" search results don't mention the chemical (as they'd show up in both queries if they did). edit: https://www.google.com/search?"making+frogs+gay"+atrazine https://www.google.com/search?"making+frogs+gay"+atrazine
    - Nasrudith 8y ago
      Quality matters a lot in raising awareness of facts. You can't just say comicbooks are better at raising for showing everyone the dangers of radiation when basement levels of radon is depicted as causing people to melt into goo because lung cancer is also dangerous.
      - scottlocklin 8y ago
        You have to communicate with Alex Jones fans somehow if you believe in Democracy. I mean, what are the other options? Not telling them anything? Sending them LaTeX formatted papers?

The context is important, Alex Jones was using that study to say that the government was turning people gay intentionally.

by bm1362 8y ago

The context is important, Alex Jones was using that study to say that the government was turning people gay intentionally.

scottlocklin 8y ago

Probably so, but nobody else with his reach was covering this. Seems kind of important to me!

ceejayoz 8y ago
That's simply false. NYT in 2003: https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/19/us/popular-pesticide-faulted-for-frogs-sexual-abnormalities.html https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/19/us/popular-pesticide-faul... BBC in 2007: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1930658.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1930658.stm
- scottlocklin 8y ago
  Humor me for a minute here: 1) Google Atrazine (I get 1.7m hits) 2) Google "making frogs gay" (I get 4.9m hits) I'm pretty sure this means Alex Jones did a better job of informing humanity that atrazine might be a problem than the NYT or any other news organization. I'm assuming Alex Jones is the source, or at least the main popularizer of the meme "making frogs gay." I could be wrong about that, and maybe it was someone else! Or maybe everything Alex Jones does is bad. But it looks like he raised an important issue and effectively put it into people's brains.
  - ceejayoz 8y ago
    That's a major goalpost move. Let's evaluate it for a moment, though. You posit Jones helped inform humanity about atrazine... but your tallies indicate that at least 3.2M of the 4.9M (65%) "making frogs gay" search results don't mention the chemical (as they'd show up in both queries if they did). edit: https://www.google.com/search?"making+frogs+gay"+atrazine https://www.google.com/search?"making+frogs+gay"+atrazine
  - Nasrudith 8y ago
    Quality matters a lot in raising awareness of facts. You can't just say comicbooks are better at raising for showing everyone the dangers of radiation when basement levels of radon is depicted as causing people to melt into goo because lung cancer is also dangerous.
    - scottlocklin 8y ago
      You have to communicate with Alex Jones fans somehow if you believe in Democracy. I mean, what are the other options? Not telling them anything? Sending them LaTeX formatted papers?