3 ms·

"be prepared to see the dystopia that your industry has created as a by-product." - that's an assumption that is not based on fact. The software industry is not

"be prepared to see the dystopia that your industry has created as a by-product." - that's an assumption that is not based on fact. The software industry is not the only factor.

munchbunny 8y ago
Maybe not the only factor, but it's definitely a very large factor.
- rightbyte 8y ago
  It's more or less the only factor. I don't blame city council for not foreseeing this after the Dotcom bubble. They would have to have built a city wall to keep low skill labor out to protect the low wage workers in the city from a never ending stream of dreamers who don't understand they will not make it in the long run working in restaurants, stores, car maintenance or what ever. Internet money is displacing ordinary people, i.e. children of house owning residents who can't land a well paid job, and people in rental units. If you have a family you can't expect all children to get well paid jobs, you can't expect your parents to be around being good grandparents after they retire and if you are born in the area you can't expect your childhood/teen/20s friends to stay around for the same reason - not everyone can get high paying jobs. I mean, it's not a nice community if the people you grow up with have to move because they can't stay competitive enough. When I worked in Palo Alto (as a high paid tech worker displacing old folks ...), I didn't think about this at all. It was first afterwards I realized that ordinary people were missing and there were very few children over all.
elif 8y ago
When I make a sandwich, I do not become a bread baker first... It is perfectly reasonable to state as fact that the predominant economic paradigm of the city has caused dystopia, despite there being other causal factors or caveats baked in.
- leetcrew 8y ago
  if I roll through NYC with a tank column and blow a bunch of stuff up, is the ensuing chaos caused by wall street? edit: or do I become the predominant economic paradigm?

"be prepared to see the dystopia that your industry has created as a by-product." - that's an assumption that is not based on fact. The software industry is not the only factor.

munchbunny 8y ago

Maybe not the only factor, but it's definitely a very large factor.

rightbyte 8y ago
It's more or less the only factor. I don't blame city council for not foreseeing this after the Dotcom bubble. They would have to have built a city wall to keep low skill labor out to protect the low wage workers in the city from a never ending stream of dreamers who don't understand they will not make it in the long run working in restaurants, stores, car maintenance or what ever. Internet money is displacing ordinary people, i.e. children of house owning residents who can't land a well paid job, and people in rental units. If you have a family you can't expect all children to get well paid jobs, you can't expect your parents to be around being good grandparents after they retire and if you are born in the area you can't expect your childhood/teen/20s friends to stay around for the same reason - not everyone can get high paying jobs. I mean, it's not a nice community if the people you grow up with have to move because they can't stay competitive enough. When I worked in Palo Alto (as a high paid tech worker displacing old folks ...), I didn't think about this at all. It was first afterwards I realized that ordinary people were missing and there were very few children over all.

elif 8y ago

When I make a sandwich, I do not become a bread baker first... It is perfectly reasonable to state as fact that the predominant economic paradigm of the city has caused dystopia, despite there being other causal factors or caveats baked in.

leetcrew 8y ago
if I roll through NYC with a tank column and blow a bunch of stuff up, is the ensuing chaos caused by wall street? edit: or do I become the predominant economic paradigm?