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I'm a huge Mass Effect fan. I played Mass Effect: Andromeda for about 30h at launch. For a CAD$80 game, that wasn't a good investment. I also love System of a
by folkrav 8y ago
I'm a huge Mass Effect fan. I played Mass Effect: Andromeda for about 30h at launch. For a CAD$80 game, that wasn't a good investment.
I also love System of a Down. Probably paid sub-$100 for their discography. Must have hundreds of hours of listening pleasure. Isn't this a better value than ME:A?
I'm also a huge Star Wars fan. The $30 I paid for the movie ticket and the popcorn combo when I went to see Rogue One brought me much more pleasure than those 30h of ME:A, so was this a better value?
I know, that's one game, one artist, one movie, but that's just to illustrate that it's not that clear-cut.
- Pfhreak 8y agoThe parent was clearly talking about averages/the typical case. Sure, you can cherry pick cases where a single item under/over performs the average but it doesn't invalidate the above point.
- folkrav 8y agoIf we're only talking averages, the average game isn't a very good value either - a whole lot of them suck bad and are, even at a discounted rate, a total waste of money. I'm still not really sold on this argument.
- leereeves 8y agoI did say a good game, and meant to imply the comparison to similarly good movies. I was just ignoring the games and movies that suck and would be a waste of time and money.
- pmichaud 8y agoWe're not really talking about "the average game" either though, otherwise we'd have to include "the average movie" which must necessarily--like games--include amateur and very low budget projects. We're talking about is the games you actually end up playing versus the movies you actually end up watching. For me the value for money is crushingly in favor of games, both in terms of hours per dollar and in terms of subjective enjoyment. Other people might have a different overall experience, but let's at least compare the right things.
- folkrav 8y ago> We're talking about is the games you actually end up playing versus the movies you actually end up watching. For me the value for money is crushingly in favor of games, both in terms of hours per dollar and in terms of subjective enjoyment. Fair enough. Really depends on the type of games you enjoy though. They really don't all have the same replay value. As you said, other people might have different experiences.
- SllX 8y agoTo short circuit discussion, I distinctly recall and can read above that what was originally said was a good game, not an average game.
- x775 8y agoI appreciate that games might not be your thing, and I am sure many share that sentiment and thus spend their time and money elsewhere accordingly. I am not sure, however, how you can objectively reach the above conclusion. I would encourage you to browse through https://steamdb.info/graph/ https://steamdb.info/graph/ which, among many other metrics, tracks average and median hours played for each title on Steam. If you hover popular titles like PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS or Grand Theft Auto V, for instance, you will find average total hours of 330.6 and 165.6, respectively. You can naturally also find niche titles with fewer hours; e.g. Broforce at 10.5 hours, or Blood Harvest at 7.0 hours, though niche titles tend to be cheaper (and shorter!) than mainstream triple-A games. It thus goes without saying that for those who do enjoy games, many find dozens, hundreds, or even thousands of hours of enjoyment in a single title.
- folkrav 8y agoGames definitely are my thing. It's actually why I feel confident in saying a whole lot of them are terrible. Average play time doesn't mean much in terms of actual game quality and value for your money. I've played games just to go through them, get the story and play the sequel, the one that's actually good.
- tomnipotent 8y ago> For a CAD$80 game, that wasn't a good investment. It cost you $2.66/hr for entertainment, that sounds like a great investment. > Isn't this a better value than ME:A? Not necessarily. One required active mental participation, one was passive. The big question is what value did you get out of each one?
- bsder 8y agoYour fault for playing an EA game at launch. You should have been alert to EA screwing up the Mass Effect franchise from all the garbage they pulled on Mass effect 3 (Weak ending, making Javik DLC when he was clearly a main character, etc.) Waiting 30-60 days meant that the game was available for less than half that.
- folkrav 8y agoI massively enjoyed ME3. I've already bought other EA games at launch without regretting my decision. BF4 is an example.
- AchieveLife 8y agoSupport indie games! There are tons of great ones out there :) www.humblebundle.com -> Great place to find indie deals www.factorio.com -> Game I've invested 100s of hours into because building and number management. Plus Mods!
- cwkoss 8y agoSeconding factorio: it is minecraft for engineers.
- folkrav 8y agoThere are definitely great indie games out there - Binding of Isaac is excellent, Pillars of Eternity (I & II) are what a modern Baldur's Gate would feel like - yes, Obsidian was bought by Microsoft but that's after the release of these two, and they were still considered indie before then - and Into the Breach is easily in my top 3 for 2018 games.