> Your needs don't define the needs of everyone else in this world... But yours do? You are part of, in my experience, a extremely vocal minority who are doing

> Your needs don't define the needs of everyone else in this world... But yours do? You are part of, in my experience, a extremely vocal minority who are doing exactly what you are accusing me of. > In case you didn't know, audiophilia is actually a very expensive hobby so most people aren't audiophiles. I am actually very aware of the fact that it is an expensive hobby. A lot off the tat is baseless nonsense. > Most people pissed off about the removal of the 3.5 mm jack are not audiophiles. It is the everyday people wanting to listen to their device through headphones that are inconvenienced by this move. How? They gave away a dongle until the X series phone. It works just fine. I see on my daily commute a heck of a lot of headphone users. I see a lot of dongles and I see a lot of wireless headphones, AirPod being extremely common. I can only presume that the majority either use the headphones that came with their phone (a lot of apple headphones out there) or keep the dongle attached. > ...now they have to use a dongle to do something as basic as listening to their device privately. So? A bit of history; back in the day, expensive 'on/over the ear headphones came fitted with TRS Audio jack (6.35mm). In order to use decent headphones on your walkman/discman, you had to use a converter (a dongle in modern parlance). The horror! > Not to mention the fact that Apple/Google/HTC/etc claim that the reason why they removed 3.5 mm was to improve sound quality. In their opinion, 3.5 mm is archaic and is holding back the audio industry. This seems like a bullshit excuse, because you don't hear any audiophiles complaining about that... Do you have any evidence other than the opinions of individuals who spend thousands on snake oil? > If they removed 3.5 mm because it's holding audio back, where are the improvements and benefits from using their latest hyped flashy "adaptive" audio technologies? Where are the white papers? If you ask anyone working in high fidelity sound, I don't think anyone would have suggested that this is what we needed. For portable music players, I doubt many would care...