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I don't know about screw it up, but I am wondering what is the upside in adopting this new OS in lieu of Android for all phone makers not named Apple?

obmelvin 8y ago
Theoretically you could replace the AI layer (Topaz? IDR) with your own assistant (e.g., Samsung could integrate Bixby into the OS) I should note that I have only glanced at what implementation details are public and it is entirely possible that this is not feasible
untog 8y ago
Google will just make it a requirement in order to provide the Play Store and other Google apps on your device. Then most will be forced to follow along. I could see it being the straw that finally breaks the camel's back for Samsung, though. They have their own assistant, web browser... they could just choose to go it alone.
- max76 8y ago
  This sounds like a cost to phone manufacturers, not a benefit.
  - toast0 8y ago
    At this point manufacturers don't have a lot of choices. To a reasonable approximation, the options are Android with google's blessing, android without play store, beg microsoft for windows mobile 10?, KaiOS, Tizen?, don't make phones. About the only one that will sell the final product in the US is Android with Google's blessing.
    - max76 8y ago
      Correct, Google has all the leverage to dictate what non-Apple smartphone manufacturers sell. Moving to Fuchsia would be expensive for everybody involved. Google is developing a new OS. Chip manufacturers will have to write new driver code. Cell manufacturers will have to integrate a new system. Everyone loses the work they put into the Android Open Source Project and their private branches of ASOP. With all this cost, who's getting the upside? Google is clearly getting the lion's share.
Redoubts 8y ago
If there's an ABI for drivers, then all phones can promise (more) OS updates with less work.
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Treble is an ABI for drivers. OEMs have hardly changed their behavior.

obmelvin 8y ago

Theoretically you could replace the AI layer (Topaz? IDR) with your own assistant (e.g., Samsung could integrate Bixby into the OS) I should note that I have only glanced at what implementation details are public and it is entirely possible that this is not feasible

untog 8y ago

Google will just make it a requirement in order to provide the Play Store and other Google apps on your device. Then most will be forced to follow along. I could see it being the straw that finally breaks the camel's back for Samsung, though. They have their own assistant, web browser... they could just choose to go it alone.

max76 8y ago
This sounds like a cost to phone manufacturers, not a benefit.
- toast0 8y ago
  At this point manufacturers don't have a lot of choices. To a reasonable approximation, the options are Android with google's blessing, android without play store, beg microsoft for windows mobile 10?, KaiOS, Tizen?, don't make phones. About the only one that will sell the final product in the US is Android with Google's blessing.
  - max76 8y ago
    Correct, Google has all the leverage to dictate what non-Apple smartphone manufacturers sell. Moving to Fuchsia would be expensive for everybody involved. Google is developing a new OS. Chip manufacturers will have to write new driver code. Cell manufacturers will have to integrate a new system. Everyone loses the work they put into the Android Open Source Project and their private branches of ASOP. With all this cost, who's getting the upside? Google is clearly getting the lion's share.

Redoubts 8y ago

If there's an ABI for drivers, then all phones can promise (more) OS updates with less work.

pjmlp 8y ago
Treble is an ABI for drivers. OEMs have hardly changed their behavior.