> and their inability to properly deliver finished cars to their customers when promised (i.e., basic logistics). What are you even talking about? I bought my

> and their inability to properly deliver finished cars to their customers when promised (i.e., basic logistics). What are you even talking about? I bought my Model S 2 years ago and waited the same amount of time as for the previous BMW (3 months), which didn't even come from overseas (I'm in Europe). > The cars you've mentioned aren't meant to have maximum range at high speeds; they're meant to have X range at commuter speeds while providing a luxurious rid And this is why they are no Tesla competitors for most people - who don't want or can't afford a second car for long distances. > You'll also have to demonstrate (with cites) that the aerodynamics will cost them 20% of posted range Lots of people have, it's simple physics. At higher speeds, air resistance causes most of the energy consumption. The results can be calculated easily: https://www.ecalc.ch/evcalc.php?lang=en https://www.ecalc.ch/evcalc.php?lang=en 130 Km/h (= 80 mph) Model S = 22 KWh/100 Km Mercedes EQC = 30 KWh/100 Km i-Pace = 28,5 KWh/100 Km