I don't think that's inflammatory at all. I tend to agree with you that a very good engineering organization would enforce data-first design and maintenance pra

I don't think that's inflammatory at all. I tend to agree with you that a very good engineering organization would enforce data-first design and maintenance practices and build types around that. But unfortunately a lot of places don't operate that way and so my comment was meant in more of a general sense, not in a "types cannot possibly be useful at a systems level" way.