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Cry me a river! If the worst of the things that I did as a kid showed up in my Google results I'd still be hireable. Why? Because I was a goody two-shoes who ne

Cry me a river! If the worst of the things that I did as a kid showed up in my Google results I'd still be hireable. Why? Because I was a goody two-shoes who never did anything wrong? Nope! So why, then? Because while I was maybe mischievous, I wasn't a malicious little shit doing pointlessly antagonistic and destructive things.

pyre 16y ago
I'm thinking that you don't subscribe the the idea that people can get a second chance to turn their life around (or that people can turn their life around).
- sofuture 16y ago
  No, that's not it at all. I just think that someone so blatantly being a jackass, and being filmed in the act, deserves all the publicity that they get. I'm not suggesting we burn these kids at the stake or tattoo their crimes on their forehead. I just fail to see why anyone should bemoan their potentially besmirched reputation. Boo. Hoo.
  - pyre 16y ago
    At the very least, publicizing it before a trial taints the jury pool... I'm not one to champion the idea of trial by public opinion (because there are a number of cases where public opinion is wrong).
    - stretchwithme 16y ago
      If that's the case, all crimes should be kept private.
- stretchwithme 16y ago
  I don't think anyone is advocating jail time for egging people. But you should at least get SOME negative repercussions from your behavior. A $200 fine should still enable people to turn "their lives around". They should at least be forced to clean up the mess they've made. In olden times when we lived in small villages, yes people knew when someone was being an asshole. And they remembered. One more disincentive against bad behavior. And people know they are dealing with a young person and the potential to grow out of it. All the more reason to make the consequences immediate and not have them learn they can treat badly without consequence.
  - Zak 16y ago
    >I don't think anyone is advocating jail time for egging people. I am. I don't think a fine effectively gets across the point that battery and vandalism are crimes, not minor violations like jaywalking. $200 is a speeding ticket, and to some upper-middle class teenagers, little more than pocket change. Three days in jail (or juvenile detention), on the other hand is most likely a novel and frightening experience that's actually likely to discourage similar behavior in the future.
    - stretchwithme 16y ago
      oh, ok then. Give them a little time in the corner. Even that is not life ending. Even Martha bounced back.
    - pyre 16y ago
      > some upper-middle class teenagers, little more > than pocket change I think that my parents would be considered upper-middle class and I've never thought that $200 was pocket-change. > Three days in jail (or juvenile detention), on > the other hand is most likely a novel and frightening > experience that's actually likely to discourage similar > behavior in the future. For some. For others it might just allow them to find bad role models more effectively.
gscott 16y ago
For $500 I will seed the web about your accomplishments in nursing baby kittens back to health, your support for the disabled, and how green you are in your buying goats to mow your lawn instead of a gas mower. The part were you are an arsonist, run a medicare fraud ring, and have stolen millions from investors will be so far back in the Google results it will be like it never happened.
- PakG1 16y ago
  Wasn't there a HN post a while back about how this is actually becoming a really big business? Reverse SEO or something like that.

pyre 16y ago

I'm thinking that you don't subscribe the the idea that people can get a second chance to turn their life around (or that people can turn their life around).

sofuture 16y ago
No, that's not it at all. I just think that someone so blatantly being a jackass, and being filmed in the act, deserves all the publicity that they get. I'm not suggesting we burn these kids at the stake or tattoo their crimes on their forehead. I just fail to see why anyone should bemoan their potentially besmirched reputation. Boo. Hoo.
- pyre 16y ago
  At the very least, publicizing it before a trial taints the jury pool... I'm not one to champion the idea of trial by public opinion (because there are a number of cases where public opinion is wrong).
  - stretchwithme 16y ago
    If that's the case, all crimes should be kept private.
stretchwithme 16y ago
I don't think anyone is advocating jail time for egging people. But you should at least get SOME negative repercussions from your behavior. A $200 fine should still enable people to turn "their lives around". They should at least be forced to clean up the mess they've made. In olden times when we lived in small villages, yes people knew when someone was being an asshole. And they remembered. One more disincentive against bad behavior. And people know they are dealing with a young person and the potential to grow out of it. All the more reason to make the consequences immediate and not have them learn they can treat badly without consequence.
- Zak 16y ago
  >I don't think anyone is advocating jail time for egging people. I am. I don't think a fine effectively gets across the point that battery and vandalism are crimes, not minor violations like jaywalking. $200 is a speeding ticket, and to some upper-middle class teenagers, little more than pocket change. Three days in jail (or juvenile detention), on the other hand is most likely a novel and frightening experience that's actually likely to discourage similar behavior in the future.
  - stretchwithme 16y ago
    oh, ok then. Give them a little time in the corner. Even that is not life ending. Even Martha bounced back.
  - pyre 16y ago
    > some upper-middle class teenagers, little more > than pocket change I think that my parents would be considered upper-middle class and I've never thought that $200 was pocket-change. > Three days in jail (or juvenile detention), on > the other hand is most likely a novel and frightening > experience that's actually likely to discourage similar > behavior in the future. For some. For others it might just allow them to find bad role models more effectively.

gscott 16y ago

For $500 I will seed the web about your accomplishments in nursing baby kittens back to health, your support for the disabled, and how green you are in your buying goats to mow your lawn instead of a gas mower. The part were you are an arsonist, run a medicare fraud ring, and have stolen millions from investors will be so far back in the Google results it will be like it never happened.

PakG1 16y ago
Wasn't there a HN post a while back about how this is actually becoming a really big business? Reverse SEO or something like that.