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> But you're happy to use arguments about race relations or civil rights in order to attack unions – any stick will do to beat a dog. If you are so committed t

> But you're happy to use arguments about race relations or civil rights in order to attack unions – any stick will do to beat a dog. If you are so committed to the belief that unions are inherently good that you will out-of-hand dismiss anyone pointing out the ways that they have advanced white supremacist structures historically, and accuse them of false-flag concern trolling, you don't get to pretend that you care about "race relations" (ie, racism). > Since you're arguing against unions, we can assume that you are right-wing, politically. As such, you probably don't, actually, care very much about race relations or civil rights. Thanks for this absurd conclusion, I appreciated the laugh.

dang 8y ago
Could you please stop posting in the flamewar style to HN? It damages the container here, regardless of how right you are or how wrong someone else is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- chimeracoder 8y ago
  I'm not sure I understand - what do you mean by flamewar-style in this case? If you're referring to my tone, I understand that this might sound frustrated. At the same time, I was pointing out and explaining why the HN title specifically (not the article title, as they were different) is offensive to people of several ethnic backgrounds, including my own. And in response, I was met with one person accusing me of speaking in bad faith (with no further comment on what they meant) and another accusing me of being racist and disingenuous for explaining why the submitted title was offensive. So if I sound frustrated by the end and deflect the personal attacks levied at me, please understand it's not a reaction that comes out of nowhere.
  - dang 8y ago
    It's more than tone. I'm talking about snark, aggression, and using the threads for smiting enemies instead of good conversation. This old quote of pg's expresses it: Comments should be written in the spirit of colleagues cooperating in good faith to figure out the truth about something, not politicians trying to ridicule and misrepresent the other side. Sure there are things to be frustrated about, but making an internet forum more acidic does no good about any of those, and it damages the container here considerably. People are mimetic. Others start to react in the same way and soon we end up in a Hobbesian hell. So could you please follow the site guidelines, even when frustrated? I know it's not easy, but it's no more than we ask of anyone. As for the title, it matched the Bloomberg article when I saw it and still does, though they took out the word "American" for some reason. It's still in the URL though.

dang 8y ago

Could you please stop posting in the flamewar style to HN? It damages the container here, regardless of how right you are or how wrong someone else is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

chimeracoder 8y ago
I'm not sure I understand - what do you mean by flamewar-style in this case? If you're referring to my tone, I understand that this might sound frustrated. At the same time, I was pointing out and explaining why the HN title specifically (not the article title, as they were different) is offensive to people of several ethnic backgrounds, including my own. And in response, I was met with one person accusing me of speaking in bad faith (with no further comment on what they meant) and another accusing me of being racist and disingenuous for explaining why the submitted title was offensive. So if I sound frustrated by the end and deflect the personal attacks levied at me, please understand it's not a reaction that comes out of nowhere.
- dang 8y ago
  It's more than tone. I'm talking about snark, aggression, and using the threads for smiting enemies instead of good conversation. This old quote of pg's expresses it: Comments should be written in the spirit of colleagues cooperating in good faith to figure out the truth about something, not politicians trying to ridicule and misrepresent the other side. Sure there are things to be frustrated about, but making an internet forum more acidic does no good about any of those, and it damages the container here considerably. People are mimetic. Others start to react in the same way and soon we end up in a Hobbesian hell. So could you please follow the site guidelines, even when frustrated? I know it's not easy, but it's no more than we ask of anyone. As for the title, it matched the Bloomberg article when I saw it and still does, though they took out the word "American" for some reason. It's still in the URL though.